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Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development

From Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development
Date 2015-09-17 21:39 -0400
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Message-ID <mtfptp$7tm$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> writes:

> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 13:45:16 +0000, Huge wrote:
>
>> On 2015-09-17, Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <mtdjlv$vhg$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>>>"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>news:mtddor12qjb@news7.newsguy.com...
>>>>> On 2015-09-16, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         [snip...]                       [snip...]
>>>>> [snip...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, I believe in using whatever works best, and sometimes a GUI
>>>>> can do things more efficiently than a keyboard.  Unfortunately, there
>>>>> seems to be a lot of software that tries to force your hands off the
>>>>> keyboard.  I wonder whether it's even possible to explain to some
>>>>> people why vi commands were designed the way they are.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>"vi" was designed for the time it was developed and the prevailing
>>>>conditions then.  Why use mercury delay line memory units???  Because
>>>>DRAM was far in the future!!!
>>>>
>>>>The past has to be understood in its own context.  Otherwise, the past
>>>>will *not* be properly understood.
>>>
>>> I still like to have vi available,
>> 
>> Me too. How else are you going to edit files when you've ssh'd into a
>> server from your 'phone?
>
> I use ed for those situations. When I started using UNIX, that was all we 
> had.

That's all I had too.
I believe that was sometime around '79.

But I heard about this thing called Emacs and got a copy
from Bell Labs Indian Hill.  So, no real time spent
fooling with ed.

Started using it and never looked back.
Soon after I heard about Bill Joy and VI, but I already
had Emacs and wasn't interested.

-- 
Dan Espen

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OT: Getting into Mac software development Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-14 00:06 +0000
  Re: OT: Getting into Mac software development Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-13 21:48 -0400
  Re: OT: Getting into Mac software development Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-14 09:43 +0000
  Re: OT: Getting into Mac software development Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-14 10:37 +0000
  Re: Getting into Mac software development "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-14 15:17 -0500
    Re: Getting into Mac software development Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-15 11:56 +0000
      Re: Getting into Mac software development Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-15 17:48 +0000
        Re: Getting into Mac software development Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-15 21:25 +0200
          Re: Getting into Mac software development Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-15 17:15 -0400
            Re: Getting into Mac software development Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 22:00 +0000
              Re: Getting into Mac software development Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 03:58 +0000
                !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-17 00:40 -0500
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 05:59 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-17 01:10 -0500
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-17 07:10 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 11:51 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 08:57 -0400
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-17 13:34 +0200
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-17 13:45 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-17 16:38 +0200
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-17 11:34 -0400
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-17 16:10 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-17 20:29 +0200
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-09-17 20:35 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 21:39 -0400
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-18 11:36 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-18 12:45 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-18 15:20 +0100
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-18 18:31 -0500
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-09-19 00:06 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-19 04:50 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-09-19 10:01 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-09-21 19:28 -0400
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-10-21 15:47 -0400
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 16:15 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-17 16:28 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-17 20:33 +0200
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-18 18:33 -0500
        Re: Getting into Mac software development hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-17 09:47 -0700
          Re: Getting into Mac software development Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 19:51 +0000

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