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Re: Getting into Mac software development

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On 2015-09-15, Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:

> On 2015-09-14, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>
>> "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message 
>> news:mt532c0pkv@news4.newsguy.com...
>>
>>> Sorry for the off-charter post, but the comp.sys.mac.programmer.*
>>> groups have been overrun by trolls and I can't figure out where else
>>> to look.
>
> Charlie Gibbs is a serious programmer, I think he is on about crossplatform
> stuff.

Bingo.  I suspect that one reason for all these shiny new languages and
development kits is that vendors see portability as a threat and try to
come up with ways to lock developers (hence users) into their own platform.
Also it would be nice not to throw away all of my existing libraries,
knowledge, etc.

Besides, I'm just not an IDE person.  I prefer to use a text editor of
my own choosing (which becomes axiomatic when developing for multiple
platforms).  Makefiles look so much simpler than the process of setting
up a "project" with dozens of little bits and pieces scattered all over
the place.  (A couple of times, when chasing particularly stubborn bugs,
I tried to load my existing code into a "project" in the hope of using
its tools - but it turned out to be such a hassle that I found it faster
to fall back on the time-honoured practice of writing trace information
to a log file in critical spots in the code.)

I'm not saying that I'm totally averse to change.  But I've seen too many
examples of change for its own sake - and the negative consequences of it -
to not be skeptical when someone sings the praises of some new methodology.
(I love Tom Gilb's term "mythodology".)

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OT: Getting into Mac software development Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-14 00:06 +0000
  Re: OT: Getting into Mac software development Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-13 21:48 -0400
  Re: OT: Getting into Mac software development Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-14 09:43 +0000
  Re: OT: Getting into Mac software development Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-14 10:37 +0000
  Re: Getting into Mac software development "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-14 15:17 -0500
    Re: Getting into Mac software development Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-15 11:56 +0000
      Re: Getting into Mac software development Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-15 17:48 +0000
        Re: Getting into Mac software development Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-15 21:25 +0200
          Re: Getting into Mac software development Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-15 17:15 -0400
            Re: Getting into Mac software development Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 22:00 +0000
              Re: Getting into Mac software development Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 03:58 +0000
                !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-17 00:40 -0500
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 05:59 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-17 01:10 -0500
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-17 07:10 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 11:51 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 08:57 -0400
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-17 13:34 +0200
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-17 13:45 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-17 16:38 +0200
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-17 11:34 -0400
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-17 16:10 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-17 20:29 +0200
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-09-17 20:35 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 21:39 -0400
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-18 11:36 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-18 12:45 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-18 15:20 +0100
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-18 18:31 -0500
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-09-19 00:06 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-19 04:50 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-09-19 10:01 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-09-21 19:28 -0400
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-10-21 15:47 -0400
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 16:15 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-17 16:28 +0000
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-17 20:33 +0200
                Re: !!!Re: Getting into Mac software development "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-18 18:33 -0500
        Re: Getting into Mac software development hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-17 09:47 -0700
          Re: Getting into Mac software development Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 19:51 +0000

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