Re: Generic function-calling code

From	Bartc <bc@freeuk.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: Generic function-calling code
Date	2015-09-03 11:21 +0100
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 03/09/2015 10:34, David Brown wrote:
> On 03/09/15 10:26, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:

>> Based on the horrible design Microsoft chose, it
>> seems like a valid reason for why they chose it.
>> Remember it was a long time before Intel would
>> capitulate to create their own x86-64 version.

> By putting the first four parameters into registers, they
> could make small functions quite fast.  But by leaving space for those
> registers on the stack, it would be easy to change code to put those
> parameters onto the stack without disturbing anything else, and then you
> could debug the code.

(It would be interesting to see figures as to how much difference in 
performance it actually makes to pass arguments in registers.

I've done some crude tests, such as using 'gcc -m64 -O0'. Although 
unoptimised, I assume it still uses the same Fastcall convention (even 
for non-global calls). Yet the results compared badly with a certain 
other compiler that I know doesn't use Fastcall and just pushes 
everything to the stack.)

> AMD, on the other hand, wanted into the workstation market.  Their main
> effort in developing x86-64 was in cooperation with *nix developers and
> compiler developers for that market.  Thus they worked with folks like
> IBM, the Linux kernel developers, SUSE, Red Hat, CodeSourcery, etc.
> Their ABI - as used by everyone except Windows - is the System V ABI for
> x86-64, targeted at *nix systems and made in cooperation with gcc and a
> few other compiler developers for *nix.
>
>
> So I don't think the Windows x86-64 ABI mistakes are the result of
> conspiracies - merely a failure on MS' part to predict the future
> accurately.

What's so terrible about the Windows ABI compared with System V?

-- 
Bartc

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Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-21 21:21 +0100
  Re: Generic function-calling code jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-07-21 23:04 +0200
    Re: Generic function-calling code luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2015-07-21 14:45 -0700
      Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-22 00:56 +0100
        Re: Generic function-calling code BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-22 00:25 -0500
          Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 02:37 -0700
            Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-22 11:50 +0100
              Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 04:29 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-22 13:04 +0100
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 05:44 -0700
              AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-07-22 12:50 +0000
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 06:07 -0700
                Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-07-22 13:30 +0000
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 07:42 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-07-22 17:07 +0200
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 08:16 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-22 08:41 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-22 08:47 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 08:53 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-07-22 18:09 +0200
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 16:38 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-07-22 18:28 +0100
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-07-22 13:37 -0400
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-22 15:04 -0500
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 10:39 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-07-22 19:10 +0100
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 11:39 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-07-22 20:01 +0100
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 12:06 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-07-22 20:51 +0100
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) guinness.tony@gmail.com - 2015-07-22 17:48 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-07-22 19:50 +0000
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 13:15 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-07-22 21:28 +0100
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 21:44 +0100
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) Morris Dovey <mrdovey@iedu.com> - 2015-07-22 16:35 -0500
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 15:17 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) Morris Dovey <mrdovey@iedu.com> - 2015-09-05 15:20 -0500
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 23:01 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) wssimms@gmail.com - 2015-09-06 01:58 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-06 02:28 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-06 12:48 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 07:08 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-22 13:50 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 21:43 +0100
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic guinness.tony@gmail.com - 2015-07-22 17:43 -0700
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-07-24 10:41 -0400
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-07-24 16:01 +0100
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-07-25 19:20 +0000
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 20:25 +0100
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-23 20:41 +0200
                Re: Let's see who can be the most off-topic (Was: AVCALL ...) Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 12:00 -0700
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-22 17:43 +0100
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-07-22 19:36 +0000
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-22 23:19 +0100
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 15:43 -0700
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-22 23:47 +0100
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 04:44 -0700
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-23 13:14 +0100
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 06:26 -0700
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-23 15:00 +0100
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 07:13 -0700
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-23 18:02 +0100
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 10:05 -0700
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-23 18:19 +0100
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 10:37 -0700
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-23 23:29 +0100
                Re: AVCALL (from the 'ffcall' package) really is the answer! (Was: Generic function-calling code) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-07-23 16:18 +0000
              Re: Generic function-calling code Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-07-24 01:21 -0400
          Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-22 13:23 +0100
            Re: Generic function-calling code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-23 07:44 +1200
              Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-22 22:24 +0100
      Re: Generic function-calling code luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 10:29 -0700
      Re: Generic function-calling code luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 10:32 -0700
    Re: Generic function-calling code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-21 15:38 -0700
  Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-21 17:26 -0700
  Re: Generic function-calling code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-22 14:27 +1200
  Re: Generic function-calling code gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-07-22 02:39 +0000
  Re: Generic function-calling code Lőrinczy Zsigmond <zsiga@nospam.for.me> - 2015-07-23 09:28 +0200
  Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 19:04 -0700
  Re: Generic function-calling code owen.jacobson@grimoire.ca - 2015-07-24 08:32 -0700
    Re: Generic function-calling code gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-07-24 18:48 +0000
    Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-24 20:22 +0100
      Re: Generic function-calling code Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-25 03:03 -0700
  Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 13:32 -0700
    Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-25 23:28 +0100
      Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 06:18 -0700
        Re: Generic function-calling code gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-07-26 13:39 +0000
          Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 07:33 -0700
            Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-26 16:21 +0100
              Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 08:39 -0700
  Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 05:37 -0700
    Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-26 14:36 +0100
      Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 06:46 -0700
        Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-26 16:11 +0100
          Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 08:20 -0700
  Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 16:53 -0700
    Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-28 01:03 +0100
      Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 05:36 -0700
        Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 06:35 -0700
          Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 06:43 -0700
          Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-30 15:10 +0100
            Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 08:59 -0700
              Re: Generic function-calling code Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-30 10:54 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 10:57 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-30 11:13 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:16 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-30 11:59 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 12:15 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-30 12:57 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 13:40 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-30 11:15 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:28 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-30 20:11 +0100
                Re: Generic function-calling code David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-30 22:28 +0200
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 01:13 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-09-03 00:40 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 01:26 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-03 11:34 +0200
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 03:15 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 03:21 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-03 13:07 +0200
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 04:30 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-03 13:39 +0200
                Re: Generic function-calling code Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-03 07:20 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-03 20:25 +0200
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 11:30 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 11:44 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-03 11:21 +0100
                Re: Generic function-calling code David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-03 13:19 +0200
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 04:51 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-03 14:31 +0200
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 05:57 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 04:56 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-03 14:53 +0200
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 06:08 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-03 15:18 +0200
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 06:30 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-03 10:09 -0500
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 08:59 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-09-03 08:37 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-09-03 08:31 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:07 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-03 20:42 +0200
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 11:49 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-09-03 08:25 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-03 16:46 +0100
                Re: Generic function-calling code "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:02 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-04 04:04 +0000
                Re: Generic function-calling code Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-09-03 00:36 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-03 16:29 +0100
                Re: Generic function-calling code Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-09-03 08:45 -0700
                Re: Generic function-calling code David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-03 22:33 +0200

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