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Re: Win8 Networking is Down

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On 9/2/2015 9:34 PM, krw wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 20:38:32 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/2/2015 7:49 PM, krw wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 14:01:04 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> While I'm ranting, does it seem kinda crazy that a wireless mouse and
>>>> keyboard interface isn't built into laptops?  I guess that is a feature
>>>>    only used by a small percentage of uses but costing at least $5.
>>>
>>> My mice are very happy with my laptops.  My work laptop needs a
>>> donglet but both my laptop and tablet work quite well without.
>>
>> Not sure what that means.  Are you using a cabled mouse or a bluetooth
>> mouse?
>
> Bluetooth.
>
>> I haven't used Bluetooth a lot, but when I do it has problems
>> more frequently that I expect.
>
> I had a lot of trouble with USB decades back, too.  Bluetooth seems to
> work quite well, these days.
>
>> The touchpad is turned off to prevent
>> palm wipes from messing things up and I would have to dig out another
>> mouse to debug a Bluetooth mouse issue.
>
> I have the touchpads turned off on my ThinkPads, too, but they have
> tracksticks.  I haven't had any issues with Bluetooth in a long time,
> though.  I guess I have to power cycle a headset to get it to attach,
> once in a while.  Once it's going it's reliable, though.

I use a bluetooth speaker and every once in awhile the Bluetooth stack 
gets so messed up I have to disable the adapter or something.  It is 
just infrequent enough that I never remember what to do to straighten it 
out.  I'm not willing to give the Bluetooth mouse a try since I can't 
find any that I have confidence in.


>>   Also, the selection of
>> Bluetooth mice is a lot less than others.
>
> Less, sure, but there is a good selection, including some top of the
> line mice and some not so top.

At microcenter it is something like 30:1.  I found two or three 
Bluetooth mice and literally many dozen others.


>>>> Oh yeah, I almost forgot about the ultra crappy keyboard on this
>>>> stinking laptop which double enters at the drop of a hat.  This is so
>>>> bad that my space bar is the most frequently used button by an order of
>>>> magnitude I expect.  These days anytime I say "Lenovo" I have to spit!
>>>
>>> The only brand I'll buy.
>>>
>>>> To top it all off I have a customer jerking me around with "hurry up"
>>>> orders.  Not easy to deal with when email doesn't work.
>>>
>>> You only have one Internet capable device?
>>
>> A netbook, which is what I use to try to research not being about to
>> connect to the Internet.  I use a mail client and don't like to go
>> around that.  I use it as a data base for communications and sending
>> email from a web client messes up how it works for those emails.
>
> Are you using POP? IMAP works much better on multiple devices.  Even
> with POP, I would just copy myself on outgoing emails if I was sending
> them from another device.  With IMAP, I can use my tablet or laptop,
> and even my cell phone though it's a PITA to send email on it.

I tried IMAP once and the outbound emails don't get duplicated.  CCing 
myself doesn't give me an email that shows as outbound and so makes it 
harder to search for.  It also makes the files on the two machines 
different.  One has it's outbound copies as well as the received copies 
and the other vice versa.


>> My board test fixture controller program opens a socket to a telnet
>> window as a debug display.  When I first got this computer it would not
>> connect to the durn telnet display no matter what.  I got a lot of
>> advice on debugging including wireshark and never got it working.  This
>> thing is just possessed.
>
> I've had very good luck with Lenovo, though the resolution on my X21T
> display is too low to be really useful as a laptop.  I don't use it
> much as a laptop anymore.  The tablet is just too easy to carry and
> has a much better display (though much worse keyboard).

This Lenovo is pure crap.  The worst keyboard I've ever seen anywhere, 
display is HD but has poor view-ability anywhere but dead center.  That 
is so bad, the difference in angle between the top and bottom makes part 
of the screen hard to see on some movies.  It runs hot, can't find it's 
own battery, crashes if I try to use sleep mode and the list goes on.  I 
paid about $800 for this POS.

I guess tomorrow I'll get a low end machine just to have something to 
get by with.  I'd like to get something with a decent touchpad but 
nearly all of them have no mouse buttons these days.

-- 

Rick

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Win8 Networking is Down rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 09:49 -0400
  Re: Win8 Networking is Down Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-08-17 07:47 -0700
    Re: Win8 Networking is Down Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 16:18 +0100
      Re: Win8 Networking is Down Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-17 10:43 -0500
      Re: Win8 Networking is Down DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-08-17 11:50 -0400
    Re: Win8 Networking is Down rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 14:04 -0400
      Re: Win8 Networking is Down Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-08-17 11:45 -0700
        Re: Win8 Networking is Down rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 15:41 -0400
      Re: Win8 Networking is Down DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-08-17 19:05 -0400
  Re: Win8 Networking is Down "John Smith" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-17 11:12 -0400
    Re: Win8 Networking is Down rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 14:24 -0400
      Re: Win8 Networking is Down Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 22:08 +0100
        Re: Win8 Networking is Down rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 22:20 -0400
      Re: Win8 Networking is Down "John Smith" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-17 20:31 -0400
      Re: Win8 Networking is Down "John Smith" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-17 22:54 -0400
  Re: Win8 Networking is Down Martin Riddle <martin_ridd@verizon.net> - 2015-08-17 20:35 -0400
    Re: Win8 Networking is Down rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 22:35 -0400
  Re: Win8 Networking is Down Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-08-18 05:43 -0500
    Re: Win8 Networking is Down rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 09:19 -0400
      Re: Win8 Networking is Down DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-08-18 09:34 -0400
      Re: Win8 Networking is Down Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-08-18 12:12 -0500
      Re: Win8 Networking is Down Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2015-08-18 19:24 -0700
  Re: Win8 Networking is Down rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 14:01 -0400
    Re: Win8 Networking is Down M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2015-09-02 18:33 -0400
      Re: Win8 Networking is Down rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 18:41 -0400
        Re: Win8 Networking is Down Martin Riddle <martin_ridd@verizon.net> - 2015-09-02 19:28 -0400
    Re: Win8 Networking is Down krw <krw@nowhere.com> - 2015-09-02 19:49 -0400
      Re: Win8 Networking is Down Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2015-09-02 20:12 -0400
      Re: Win8 Networking is Down rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 20:38 -0400
        Re: Win8 Networking is Down krw <krw@nowhere.com> - 2015-09-02 21:34 -0400
          Re: Win8 Networking is Down rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 23:42 -0400
            Re: Win8 Networking is Down krw <krw@nowhere.com> - 2015-09-03 20:03 -0400
  Re: Win8 Networking is Down rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 23:30 -0400
    Re: Win8 Networking is Down rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 18:59 -0400
      Re: Win8 Networking is Down Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2015-09-10 01:57 -0700
        Re: Win8 Networking is Down DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-09-10 05:13 -0400
        Re: Win8 Networking is Down rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 15:54 -0400

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