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Re: Labels

From Bartc <bc@freeuk.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Labels
Date 2015-08-17 11:04 +0100
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On 17/08/2015 04:42, David Kleinecke wrote:
> On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 2:34:31 AM UTC-7, Bart wrote:
>> On 16/08/2015 03:13, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>> Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>> [...]
>>>> But even knowing a starter symbol is a typedef name, then with 'T(' you
>>>> might still be a long way from knowing if this is a simple variable
>>>> declaration, or the start of a 1000-line function definition.
>>>
>>> At block scope, function definitions are not permitted.  At file scope,
>>> a function definition cannot start with 'T('; it requires at least a
>>> type name and an identifier.
>>
>> The following seems to be legal:
>>
>> #include <stdio.h>
>>
>> typedef int T;
>>
>> T(main)(void) {
>>      printf("Hello World\n");
>> }
>>
>> --
>> Bartc
>
> It is my understanding that typedefs are not actual types but rather
> a kind of alsias for the type they are defined as. Hence
>     typedef int T;
> makes
>     T main ....
> compile eactly as if you had written
>     int main ...

Possibly you're confusing the typedef T with a macro T. The translation 
from T to int can't be done automatically because it first has to be 
established exactly what T is at the point it is encountered.

It could be one of:

* A label name                        T:
* A function name                     T(10);
* A variable name                     T+U;
* An enum name                        T;
* A different typedef name
* Or the int typedef as defined above

> The compiler must maintain internally a table of what typedef names
> mean. The meaning part of that table is a (possibly very complicated)
> expression in non-typedef types and their decoration.

No more complicated than what is stored with each variable or parameter 
name. The difficulty here is (1) determining that this must be a typedef 
name; (2) finding out which typedef if there are several possibilities.

(The language I normally compile has a far simpler syntax to make life 
easier. At any point where a declaration might be expected, then if 
'<name> <name>...' is encountered, the first name is assumed to be a 
user type name. Then I just have to determine which type.

Even here, I have it easy because I only have one possible scope in each 
function, while C could potentially have hundreds, one per block, each 
containing a different version of 'typedef <type> T;'.)

-- 
Bartc

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Labels David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 09:46 -0700
  Re: Labels James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-15 14:49 -0400
    Re: Labels David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:48 -0700
  Re: Labels Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-15 18:27 +0100
    Re: Labels Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-15 23:44 +0100
      Re: Labels James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-15 19:04 -0400
        Re: Labels Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-16 00:47 +0100
          Re: Labels James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-15 20:20 -0400
            Re: Labels Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-16 01:56 +0100
              Re: Labels Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-15 19:47 -0700
                Re: Labels James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-16 11:59 -0400
            Re: Labels Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-16 22:42 +0100
              Re: Labels James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-16 20:39 -0400
                Re: Labels Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-17 03:16 +0100
        Re: Labels David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 19:01 -0700
      Re: Labels Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-16 01:11 +0100
        Re: Labels Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-15 19:13 -0700
          Re: Labels Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-16 10:34 +0100
            Re: Labels Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-16 13:58 -0700
            Re: Labels David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:42 -0700
              Re: Labels Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-16 21:24 -0700
                Re: Labels David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 18:01 -0700
              Re: Labels Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-17 11:04 +0100
        Re: Labels David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 19:04 -0700
        Re: Labels Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-16 23:55 +0100
    Re: Labels David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 19:00 -0700

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