Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct

From	David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct
Date	2015-08-14 13:07 +0200
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On 14/08/15 12:19, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
> 
>> On 13/08/15 18:22, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
>>> <snip>
>>>> First, Ben dislikes your use of a union for type conversion because it
>>>> is unclear, and does not express the programmer's intentions well.
>>>> While I agree with Ben, this is a somewhat subjective opinion - and
>>>> obviously when one has used a particular style or habit for a long time,
>>>> it becomes clear and obvious to that person.  Thus we must rely on the
>>>> opinions of others when judging whether a style is common or easily
>>>> understood by other programmers.
>>>
>>> That sounds like I object on rather subjective grounds of style.  I've
>>> called Rick's union wrong, a lie and a hack.  This is not really the
>>> same as it being unclear, or not expressing the programmer's intentions
>>> well.  It's wrong (rather than unclear), and it expresses the wrong
>>> intention very well indeed!
>>
>> I was trying to be a little diplomatic and understating your objections,
>> in the hope of getting Rick to concentrate on and understand the real
>> issues here.
> 
> Ah, right.  I don't think I will be applying for diplomatic posts!
> 
>> In particular, if you use an idiom yourself in your own code, and only
>> you work with it (or you inform others of its meanings), then it is a
>> matter of style even if makes no sense to everyone else.  Clarity, and
>> the meaning of code, is somewhat in the eye of the beholder, and a
>> matter of style.  (There are some regulars in this group that post code
>> that appears as line noise to most of us, yet the authors think they
>> have a good and clear style.)  Of course it is usually best to have a
>> style that is clear and understandable to as wide an audience as
>> possible.  Thus Rick's unions are not a lie to himself in his own code,
>> but could be called a hack, or a lie to other people.
> 
> That's probably true.  It's clear the Rick sees the whole idea of
> programming in a very different way to me.  C, in particular, is a means
> to a mechanical end -- to get the machine to do what he wants -- and the
> type system juts gets in the way.  (Ironically, given his rants about
> ancient history, he'd probably prefer B or BCPL.)
> 
>> But am I right in thinking you label Rick's unions as /wrong/ primarily
>> because it is a bad way to write the code, hiding the intentions and
>> workings behind an odd construct rather than making the clear and
>> correct casts?  (If we pretend for the moment that all compilers have
>> the same size and representation for all pointers, and that any pointer
>> casts are equivalent to reinterpretations of the same bits - as they are
>> on the platforms Rick uses.)  In other words, the code is wrong even
>> though it works?
> 
> Yes, that was my main objection to it's being used where it works -- it
> says something untrue about the programmer's intent.
> 
>> (I am quite happy with labelling code as "wrong" even when it works,
>> although I know some people view run-time functionality as the only
>> criteria for right or wrong code.)
>>
>> What did you think of my concerns about aliasing, discussed in other
>> posts?
> 
> To be honest I missed them, though I did see, subsequently, a reference
> to the fact that you'd brought it up.  I went back in the thread and saw this:
> 
>   "... the compiler uses type information to improve code generation
>   because it knows that a pointer to type A cannot alias a pointer to
>   type B except in certain prescribed circumstances."
> 
> but even so I may still be missing most of what you said about aliasing.
> 
> In the situation being discussed here, the object will always be
> accessed via a pointer of the right type, will it not?  After all,
> that's the point of Rick's hack -- to ensure that the type is correct
> without actually converting a value.  On this rather superficial
> analysis, I'd say that there's no problem specifically relating to
> aliasing.  Maybe you have an example in mind?

It is difficult to be sure of the situation with Rick's suggested union,
since it is not a complete example.  But the general point is that when
you change a pointer's type (either by unions or casts), the strict
aliasing rules govern when the accesses are defined or not.  In the
special case of pointers to two structs which share a common start, you
are allowed to do some conversions - so Rick's union /might/ be valid
here, depending on the exact code.

The main post I made about unions and strict aliasing is a bit up and
"sideways" from this branch, at 13/08/15 13:31 (at least on my news
server), in reply to a post of Rick's which you also replied to.  I'd be
glad to hear your opinion on it, whether it be confirmation or correction.

> 
> (I see you've replied to my post about C being rather over-used.
> Replying just to say "I agree" is not good form on Usenet, so I'll
> tack it on here: I agree -- and you made the point better than I did.)
> 

It's fine to make "I agree" and "me too" posts, as long as you use the
appropriate <aol> tag :-)

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C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 20:48 +0200
  Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-11 20:59 +0200
  Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-11 21:03 +0200
    Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-11 15:32 -0400
  Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-08-11 21:03 +0200
    Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 21:47 +0200
  Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2015-08-11 19:14 +0000
    Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 21:50 +0200
      Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-11 16:12 -0400
        Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 22:45 +0200
          Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-12 03:08 +0100
  Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-11 20:24 +0100
    Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 21:51 +0200
      Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 13:32 -0700
        Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 13:36 -0700
          Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-11 22:57 +0200
            Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 23:23 +0200
            Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-11 16:47 -0700
              Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-11 23:46 +0000
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct morphex@gmail.com (Morten W. Petersen) - 2015-08-12 02:05 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-11 17:16 -0700
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                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 19:50 -0700
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                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct crisdunbar@gmail.com - 2015-08-13 15:47 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 04:52 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 05:01 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 05:10 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-12 09:17 +0200
          Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-12 02:56 +0100
            Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 04:07 +0200
              Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-12 03:45 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 12:10 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-12 11:39 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 13:41 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 04:59 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-12 14:16 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 06:37 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-12 15:34 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:17 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:38 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-12 17:19 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 09:52 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-12 22:40 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-13 13:31 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-08-14 20:39 -0400
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-05 13:03 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-05 14:16 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-06 11:19 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-06 18:15 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-07 09:13 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-08-12 08:07 -0400
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-12 14:08 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 10:24 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-12 20:45 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 04:19 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-13 13:18 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 15:43 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-16 21:32 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 12:00 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-17 15:50 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 22:28 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-18 01:34 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:40 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 13:35 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:01 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-05 11:39 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-06 11:24 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-06 18:09 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 10:17 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-12 20:58 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 19:59 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-13 13:47 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 05:35 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-13 15:59 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 07:57 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-13 17:46 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 09:15 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-13 17:21 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 09:26 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-13 19:40 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 11:43 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-13 21:30 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 14:56 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-14 08:51 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 00:03 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-13 17:22 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-14 09:09 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-14 11:19 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-14 13:07 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-14 19:19 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-14 14:32 -0400
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-16 16:52 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-08-16 18:34 +0000
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-17 07:48 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-08-18 18:08 +0000
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-19 09:36 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Thompson <dave.thompson2@verizon.net> - 2015-08-30 03:03 -0400
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-30 16:59 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-30 20:12 +0000
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-05 14:36 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-05 12:39 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 07:56 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-14 17:09 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 11:38 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-14 20:31 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-05 15:17 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-06 11:44 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-08-14 20:56 -0400
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:09 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-08-14 22:26 -0400
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 19:44 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-15 04:15 +0000
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:00 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-16 19:00 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:20 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-16 17:18 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-16 23:03 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 00:52 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-17 00:29 +0100
                A simpler version of C (was: Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct) "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 02:36 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-17 01:47 +0000
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-17 11:27 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 12:40 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-17 12:07 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 13:36 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-17 13:14 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 14:09 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 05:23 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 14:35 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 05:45 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 14:58 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 06:23 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 15:30 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 06:46 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 15:47 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 06:56 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 08:57 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-17 15:37 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-17 15:03 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 15:12 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-17 16:15 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 16:45 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-17 15:58 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 22:11 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-17 22:24 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 22:31 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-17 15:04 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 23:41 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-17 17:58 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 14:53 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-17 16:58 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 22:16 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-18 01:31 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:51 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-19 09:56 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 08:52 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-20 10:09 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 12:48 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-20 13:00 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2015-08-20 13:53 +0000
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 16:36 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 07:39 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-20 09:09 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 09:08 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 10:15 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 02:17 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-21 14:23 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 15:44 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-21 14:59 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 07:03 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-23 21:50 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-21 16:25 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 07:34 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-21 20:44 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-08-22 14:10 +0000
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-17 20:08 +0000
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-17 09:33 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 22:20 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-17 17:28 -0400
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-17 16:42 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-17 19:39 -0400
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-17 16:15 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-18 00:19 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-08-17 08:32 -0400
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-17 18:02 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-22 08:25 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-17 14:46 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-17 09:45 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-17 18:55 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-08-17 12:11 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-08-17 23:07 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 15:13 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-17 22:56 +0000
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-08-17 20:04 +0000
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-13 14:46 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 07:33 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-13 16:39 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-13 19:20 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 11:55 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-13 21:11 +0100
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 15:15 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-14 09:29 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-08-14 08:01 -0400
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-14 14:46 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:14 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-17 08:01 +0200
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-08-12 23:30 -0400
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-05 12:45 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-05 16:11 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 22:32 -0700
                Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-06 13:21 -0700
              Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-08-12 09:22 +0200
            Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 19:43 -0700
        Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 22:52 +0200
          Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 16:01 -0700
  Re: C pointer semantics with dynamically allocated struct Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-12 11:13 +0200

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