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Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking

From Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking
Date 2015-08-03 23:30 +0200
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JUERGEN wrote:

> On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 10:56:24 AM UTC+1, Matthias Koch wrote:
>> I am a physicist and very curious on how it works internally. I simply
>> would not recommend VFX for the hobbyist or the one who wishes to play
>> with Forth internals. The in-target Lite compilers have their limits, and
>> a NDA is not the right choice for FOSS freaks. The original question has
>> been about Arduino Due, so I assumed an experimental environment.
>> 
>> Matthias
> 
> Another very negative Forth post. Wanting all the internals for free -
> Want the IP without paying for it.

Jürgen, *every* scientist works like this.  Publish your stuff, don't hide 
it.  That's what has advanced science for the last 400 years (and during the 
greek era of science).

In any case: support is a very well-working business model for free 
software.  If you want the software including all sources and tinker with 
it, you get it.  If you want professional support, you pay for it.  That is 
a multi-billion dollar market now, free software support.

The downside of it is that if the incentive is to answer support questions, 
the code becomes more difficult to understand and tinker with it, and more 
buggy (because then you'll have more support questions).  GCC, the first 
free software program that was turned into such a support-oriented business, 
shows that setting a certain incentive makes the result predictable.  Pay 
for good support makes it more likely that the quality goes down.

I don't think you understand anything about free software.  First of all, it 
is *not* supposed to mean "free" as in "free beer".  That's just a side 
effect that when free software already exists, you can copy it for free.

-- 
Bernd Paysan
"If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
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Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 08:13 -0700
  Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 08:16 -0700
  Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-14 09:23 -0700
    Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 04:03 -0700
      Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2015-07-15 14:02 +0200
        Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-07-15 16:34 +0000
          Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2015-07-16 12:26 +0200
            Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-07-16 12:10 +0000
            Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Gary Bergstrom <forthprgrmr@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 06:48 -0700
            Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-07-17 16:21 -0400
              Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2015-07-20 11:57 +0200
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-07-20 12:37 +0000
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Gary Bergstrom <forthprgrmr@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 10:42 -0700
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-07-21 11:29 +0000
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-20 11:48 -0700
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-07-20 22:53 +0000
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-21 00:32 -0700
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-07-21 08:03 +0000
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-21 01:33 -0700
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-08-10 16:54 -0700
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-21 05:18 +0000
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-07-21 08:20 +0000
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-07-20 12:09 -0400
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-07-20 14:02 -0700
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-21 15:03 -0700
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2015-07-21 21:59 -0700
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-08-03 23:30 +0200
                Re: Arduino Due - small FORTH Computer - Multitasking JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-08-10 03:11 -0700

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