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Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled.

From "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled.
Date 2015-07-28 10:40 +0200
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On 28.07.2015 00:19, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:44:49 -0500, Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I think the relevant point is your being unconvinced is irrelevant. I
>> don't know why you think scientists need to present a case that is
>> convincing to you personally, or that you claim a victory by being
>> unconvinced.
>
> Bodkin, some people are more gullible than others and those who live by faith
> alone will readily accept anything that appears to support their belief
> system.

Well said.
Real scientists know that physics isn't a matter of belief,
but of hard evidence. The only thing that matters in physics
is experimental evidence like this:

https://paulba.no/paper/Babcock_Bergman.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Alvager_et_al.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Beckmann_Mandics.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Filippas_Fox.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Brecher.pdf

That's why all real scientists know that the only valid
theories within their domain are SR and GR.

However, some gullible non scientists think they
can choose what theory to believe in, and ignore anything
that doesn't support their belief system, like
these experiments:

https://paulba.no/paper/Fizeau_by_Michelson.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Kennedy_Thorndike.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Clemence.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Shapiro_1964.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Hafele.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Alley.pdf
see pages 708-716
https://paulba.no/paper/Initial_results_of_GPS_satellite_1977.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/Vessot.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/GravDeflection.pdf
https://paulba.no/paper/GravityProbeB.pdf

Some are even so gullible and ignorant that they choose to
believe in theories that are falsified by hundreds of
experiments, like the emission (or ballistic) theory. :-D


-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-12 14:52 -0700
  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2015-07-13 08:14 +0200
    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-13 02:30 -0400
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-14 16:59 +0200
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 10:31 -0500
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-15 06:55 +1000
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-14 20:58 -0400
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. xxein1@att.net - 2015-07-14 18:36 -0700
    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 23:14 -0700
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 00:01 -0700
  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-14 19:46 +0000
    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 09:23 -0700
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 16:39 +0000
  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 13:19 -0700
    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 13:49 -0700
    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 17:19 +0200
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 09:13 -0700
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 16:20 +0000
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 09:26 -0700
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 18:38 +0200
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:30 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 22:36 +0200
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:40 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 23:01 +0200
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 14:09 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 23:20 +0200
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-17 08:12 +0200
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 23:46 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-17 09:15 +0200
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 14:50 -0700
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 16:38 +0000
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-16 15:56 -0400
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:20 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-16 16:23 -0400
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 20:33 +0000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:49 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 21:01 +0000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 14:09 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 21:21 +0000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 23:06 +0200
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 14:13 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 23:23 +0200
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-17 08:15 +0200
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 23:33 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 23:53 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 23:57 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 00:42 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 07:22 -0500
  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-15 06:47 +1000
  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. HW <hw@...> - 2015-07-15 07:16 +1000
    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-16 20:26 +1000
    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 09:20 -0700
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. qw <qw@qw.au> - 2015-07-16 16:34 +0000
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 18:36 +0200
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-16 15:59 -0400
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 22:06 +0200
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:20 -0700
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-16 21:22 -0700
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-16 21:28 -0700
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-16 21:40 -0700
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-07-16 15:55 -0400
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:35 -0700
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 13:33 -0700
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-16 22:56 +0200
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 14:03 -0700
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-18 09:23 +1000
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-19 08:04 +1000
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. xxein1@att.net - 2015-07-18 20:17 -0700
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-07-19 20:56 +0200
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-19 22:46 +0000
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-22 05:43 +0000
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-23 08:43 +1000
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          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 17:46 -0500
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 15:54 -0700
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-07-23 16:50 -0700
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-23 17:20 -0700
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 20:49 -0500
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 12:02 -0500
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-07-25 12:00 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 09:35 -0500
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 12:46 -0500
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-07-25 11:58 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 09:34 -0500
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-26 02:10 +0000
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-07-24 14:15 +0200
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 09:44 -0500
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-28 08:19 +1000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 17:45 -0500
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-29 06:52 +1000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 16:37 -0500
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-29 07:56 +1000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 16:10 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-07-28 10:40 +0200
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-29 06:40 +1000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 16:35 -0500
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-29 02:35 +0000
  Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. alsor@interia.pl - 2015-07-25 10:47 -0700
    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 13:19 -0700
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-25 23:48 +0200
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. alsor@interia.pl - 2015-07-26 12:17 -0700
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          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 22:16 -0700
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-02 11:24 -0700
    Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 23:54 -0700
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-26 20:42 -0700
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-28 08:23 +1000
      Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-28 08:29 +1000
        Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 16:26 -0700
          Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-29 07:40 +1000
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 16:42 -0500
              Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-30 07:05 +1000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-01 19:50 +1000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-03 04:54 +1000
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                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-03 05:22 +1000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-02 14:23 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-03 20:03 +1000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-03 05:38 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. HW@...(HG Wilson) - 2015-08-04 07:56 +1000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-03 18:22 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 17:07 -0500
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 09:02 -0500
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 13:30 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-04 21:52 +0200
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 14:57 -0500
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-05 06:13 +1000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 15:42 -0500
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-05 15:23 +0200
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-08-06 06:56 +1000
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-08-05 15:08 -0700
                Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-06 12:03 +0200
            Re: The GPS GR Argument Finally Settled. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 15:06 -0700
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