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Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway

From Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com>
Newsgroups comp.arch.embedded
Subject Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway
Date 2015-07-26 15:06 +0000
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 19:28:05 +0000, Rob Gaddi wrote:

> Relevant to many of us:
> http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway
> 
> "Uconnect, an Internet-connected computer feature in hundreds of
> thousands of Fiat Chrysler cars, SUVs, and trucks, controls the
> vehicle’s entertainment and navigation, enables phone calls, and even
> offers a Wi-Fi hot spot. [ ... ] So the discussion topic for all of us 
> engineers is: whose job should it
> be to stop this sort of nonsense from occurring.  Ideally there'd be
> some sort of government standards dictating what security measures need
> to be taken, but practically government's understanding of technology
> occasionally covers the toaster.  Is it each of our jobs to call stop
> the presses when we something so blatantly stupid, and refuse at the
> expense of our jobs to work on a security flawed project?

Here it is.  So you could start your car from your smart phone, etc.  
(comp.risks): 
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:03:21 -0700 From: Lauren Weinstein
<lauren@vortex.com>
Subject: Fiat Chrysler "connected car" bug lets hackers take over Jeep
remotely

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07/fiat-chrysler-connected-car-bug-
lets-hackers-take-over-jeep-remotely/

  Uconnect, a "connected car" system sold in a number of vehicles produced
  by Fiat Chrysler for the US market, uses the Sprint cellular network to
  connect to the Internet and allows owners to interact with their vehicle
  over their smartphone--performing tasks like remote engine start,
  obtaining the location of the vehicle via GPS, and activating anti-theft
  features. But vulnerabilities in Uconnect, which Fiat Chrysler has
  issued a patch for, made it possible for an attacker to scan Sprint's
  cellular network for Uconnect-equipped vehicles, obtaining their
  location and vehicle identification information.  Miller and Valasek
  demonstrated that they could then attack the systems within the car via
  the IP address of the vehicle, allowing them to turn the engine of the
  car off, turn the brakes on or off, remotely activate the windshield
  wipers, and take control of the vehicle's information display and
  entertainment system. Miller and Valasek also found that they could take
  remote control of the steering of their test vehicle, the aforementioned
  Jeep Cherokee--but only while it was in reverse.

Thinking about what hackers will do to *autonomous* vehicles.

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Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@technologyhighland.invalid> - 2015-07-21 19:28 +0000
  Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-07-21 13:00 -0700
    Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2015-07-21 21:49 +1000
      Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-07-21 18:55 -0700
    Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com> - 2015-07-21 20:37 -0400
      Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-07-21 18:47 -0700
  Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Ian Yellowley <iany99@gmail.com> - 2015-07-21 14:35 -0700
    Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-07-21 15:22 -0700
      Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Ian Yellowley <iany99@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 13:42 -0700
        Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 18:48 -0400
          Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway lasselangwadtchristensen@gmail.com - 2015-07-22 17:33 -0700
            Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@technologyhighland.invalid> - 2015-07-24 16:51 +0000
              Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-24 10:23 -0700
                Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-07-24 11:22 -0700
                Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2015-07-24 21:49 +0200
              Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway hamilton <hamilton@nothere.com> - 2015-07-24 12:45 -0600
        Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-07-22 16:59 -0700
          Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 21:30 -0400
      Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway lasselangwadtchristensen@gmail.com - 2015-07-22 15:30 -0700
        Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 18:53 -0400
        Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-07-22 19:49 -0700
          Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 23:20 -0400
            Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-23 03:49 -0500
              Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-07-23 03:26 -0700
                Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 12:09 -0400
                Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2015-07-23 21:38 +0200
                Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 16:36 -0400
                Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2015-07-23 23:56 +0200
                Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 13:25 -0400
              Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 11:32 -0400
  Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Ed Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2015-07-21 20:00 -0700
  Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 00:57 -0400
  Re: Semi-OT: Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2015-07-26 15:06 +0000

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