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Re: Error messages

From Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Error messages
Date 2015-07-18 13:38 +0800
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David Kleinecke wrote:

> On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 12:49:03 AM UTC-7, jacobnavia wrote:
>> Le 17/07/2015 07:05, Reinhardt Behm a écrit :
>> > jacobnavia wrote:
>> >
>> >> FILE c:\lcc\include64\stdio.h 123
>> >>
>> >> and when emitting the error message the compiler could improve it to
>> >>
>> >> "Missing <stdio.h> Identifier 'FILE ' is not defined.
>> >> Include stdio.h and proceed.
>> >>
>> >> This will cost me around 1 day development, and 1 day testing. Is that
>> >> still possible for gcc and c++?
>> >>
>> >> I think that I could do that improvement to gcc's C front end, but the
>> >> C++ front end?
>> >>
>> >> Impossible.
>> >
>> > True, it is impossible.
>> >
>> > You want the compiler to _your_ job to specify what has to be included.
>> >  From where should the compiler know what "FILE" means and where it is
>> > defined?
>> >
>> > Instead of the usual definition in stdio.h "FILE" could be the
>> > definition of a structure to hold the flight path of the New Horizon
>> > spacecraft. And this definition is in a file that you not only forgot
>> > to include but even forgot to download from that server in Mongolia
>> > which is only online when the moon rises over the horizon.
>> >
>> 
>> Sure...
>> 
>> Who cares?
>> 
>> People that are redefining parts of the language (as they have the right
>> to do so) can ignore this message!
>> 
>> They WILL KNOW however that FILE is being used without being defined.
>> Much better than "syntax error" or even "parse error"!!!
> 
> A compiler implementation could have a dictionary of all the identifiers
> in the Standard Library (and feel free to extend to any other units
> you like) so that if it sees an identifier in a position where it is not
> being declared it could search for the identifier in the dictionary and
> add the needed header before proceeding. The compiler must emit a
> message (warning?) teeling you what it did.
> 
> Anybody ever done that?

Yes, it was even known before C was invented. 
Denis Ritchie et al. perfected it to the most flexible form with the 
#include directive. :-)

-- 
Reinhardt

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Error messages jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-07-17 02:36 +0200
  Re: Error messages Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-07-17 01:51 +0100
    Re: Error messages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-16 18:24 -0700
      Re: Error messages Lőrinczy Zsigmond <nospam@for.me> - 2015-07-17 09:31 +0200
        Re: Error messages Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-07-17 08:35 +0100
          Re: Error messages glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-17 09:11 +0000
            Re: Error messages Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-07-17 10:30 +0100
            Re: Error messages Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-17 21:44 +1200
              Re: Error messages Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-17 12:55 +0100
              Re: Error messages Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-07-17 19:53 +0200
              Re: Error messages glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-17 17:55 +0000
                Re: Error messages James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-07-17 14:19 -0400
            Re: Error messages raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-07-19 21:44 +0000
        Re: Error messages gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-07-17 07:38 +0000
          Re: Error messages Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-17 09:58 +0200
            Re: Error messages gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-07-17 13:32 +0000
      Re: Error messages Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-18 11:13 +0100
  Re: Error messages James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-07-16 22:36 -0400
  Re: Error messages Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2015-07-17 13:05 +0800
    Re: Error messages jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-07-17 09:48 +0200
      Re: Error messages David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 19:23 -0700
        Re: Error messages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-17 21:24 -0700
          Re: Error messages David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-07-18 18:29 -0700
            Re: Error messages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-18 20:59 -0700
              Re: Error messages David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 19:22 -0700
            Re: Error messages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-07-21 11:40 +0200
              Compiler conformance (Was: Error messages) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-07-21 11:40 +0000
                Re: Compiler conformance Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-21 14:01 +0200
                Re: Compiler conformance gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-07-21 13:47 +0000
        Re: Error messages Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2015-07-18 13:38 +0800
    Re: Error messages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-17 07:54 -0700
      Re: Error messages raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-07-19 22:00 +0000
        Re: Error messages Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-07-19 19:47 -0400
  Re: Error messages jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-07-17 10:06 +0200
  Re: Error messages Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-17 12:07 +0100
  Re: Error messages Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-17 13:14 +0200
    Re: Error messages Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-17 12:40 +0100
  Re: Error messages gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 04:32 -0700
    Re: Error messages jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-07-17 14:15 +0200
      Re: Error messages gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 05:25 -0700
        Re: Error messages Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-17 13:34 +0100
          Re: Error messages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-17 08:07 -0700
        Re: Error messages jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-07-17 14:38 +0200
          Re: Error messages Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-17 08:50 -0500
            Re: Error messages jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-07-17 16:08 +0200
              Re: Error messages Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-17 09:24 -0500
                Re: Error messages James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-07-17 12:26 -0400
                Re: Error messages Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-17 13:19 -0500
                Re: Error messages James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-07-17 14:28 -0400
                Re: Error messages James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-07-17 14:43 -0400
                Re: Error messages Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-17 20:31 +0100
                Re: Error messages Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-18 08:41 -0500
                Re: Error messages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-07-21 12:25 +0200
                Re: Error messages James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-07-21 13:20 -0400
                Re: Error messages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-07-22 00:05 +0200
          Re: Error messages Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-17 16:16 +0200
            Re: Error messages doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2015-07-17 14:49 +0000
              Re: Error messages Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-17 20:02 +0200
                Re: Error messages The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> - 2015-07-17 22:24 +0000
                Re: Error messages Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-20 10:46 +0200
                Re: Error messages doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2015-07-20 14:59 +0000
          Re: Error messages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-17 08:25 -0700
      Re: Error messages raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-07-19 22:07 +0000
  Re: Error messages Ed Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 20:11 -0700

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