Re: Samba? What a freaking joke

From	Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Newsgroups	alt.os.linux.ubuntu
Subject	Re: Samba? What a freaking joke
Date	2015-07-12 19:11 +0000
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 11:38:05 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:

> On 2015-07-12, Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:29:47 -0700, jeff g. wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/12/2015 08:49 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Do you (or, well anyone really) have any suggestions on resources
>>>> (books / web tutorials / etc.) that I can use in attempts at
>>>> bettering myself with "Linux in general"?
>>> 
>>> I've not seen anything posted in response your question.  If that is
>>> the case, here are some good links for info:
>>> 
>>> http://tldp.org/guides.html http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/
>>> http://smxi.org/site/about.htm
>>> <https://www.edx.org/course/linuxfoundationx/linuxfoundationx-
lfs101x-2-
>> introduction-5386#.VFeuafE2dqN>
>>
>> Thanks :)
>>
>> These (and the other links Aragorn sent) should give me some reading
>> material for a while.
>>
>> Any good books (dead-tree or otherwise) that I should consider having
>> around?  I know like K&R is (was?) the de-facto standard for C ... is
>> there anything similar for learning the workings of linux, at least
>> from a "user" perspective?
>>
>> I'm not that exceptional at programming, and I think any books /
>> resources on OS design (etc) would sail clear past my capacity to
>> understand...
> 
> I have a few suggestions as well. Things I still do now and have done
> since I started with Linux that I feel have helped me a lot.
> 
> 1. Linux in a Nutshell. Despite the title this is an absolutely huge
> book. And if I had to guess I'd say a good half or more of it are
> basically man pages printed on paper. It's kind of like reading a
> dictionary. There is no story, no beginning, no end. Like reading a
> dictionary exposes you to words and their meaning, reading this book
> will expose you to commands and their usage.

This one, right?

"Linux in a Nutshell, 6th Edition" 
_Dead Tree Edition_
Print: 09/2009
ISBN: 978-0-596-15448-6 | ISBN 10: 0-596-15448-8

_E-Book_
Print: 09/2009
ISBN:     978-0-596-80611-8 | ISBN 10: 0-596-80611-6

> 2. Learn Vim or Emacs and stick to it like white on rice. Develop muscle
> memory for the editor. Learn to be efficient with it. Give up your
> current word processor and no matter how painful and slow it is at the
> start stick with it. If something gets you angry for lack of not knowing
> how to do it, explore that, write down how to do what you need and stick
> it right in front of your computer. Do that until you no longer read the
> written note.

I'm already using vi(m) as my primary editor (could never get the hang of 
emacs -- I think mostly it's a product of trying to learn linux in 
general, and emacs is pretty complex in its own right).  There are times 
where I have had to fall back to gedit, because I can't figure something 
out "quickly" ... but that's happening less and less as time goes on.

Still don't have muscle memory for everything, but at least I can do most 
of the basic tasks (move around, insert/replace/delete, copy/paste).

> [...]
> 
>  
> I also think it is a good idea to go through some kind of admin
> training. That way you have a structured process of learning the basics
> from a-z. And of course as you might guess I think learning bash and
> shell scripting are good ideas. These will help you to own your Linux
> operating system. You'll be able to create the things you decide would
> make Linux better for you.

TBH, I've never been good with "structured learning" as much as dealing 
with things as they come up -- "Okay, so now I fixed problem ABC, and 
onto problem XYZ".  Yeah, it probably means that code I write is somewhat 
(ok, a lot) more spaghetti than it should be ... 

I do have a shell scripting book on my shelf. Tends to be more of a 
reference book than it should be (i.e. I SHOULD actually go through and 
do the exercises / lessons as written).

In a somewhat related vein - is there a "How to use slrn for dummies" 
book/tutorial out there?  Been using Pan for however long, but I'm 
finding as I'm getting more accustomed to the terminal, I like having 
command-line options alongside my graphical go-tos... 

Thanks!

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Samba? What a freaking joke Scurvy McRicketts <scurvymcricketts@teachers.org> - 2015-07-10 19:31 -0400
  Re: Samba? What a freaking joke deep - 2015-07-10 17:59 -0600
    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-07-10 20:12 -0400
      Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2015-07-11 03:30 +0000
        Re: Samba? What a freaking joke William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-07-11 15:06 +0100
  Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2015-07-11 00:27 +0000
    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-07-10 20:33 -0400
      Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-10 23:01 -0400
        Re: Samba? What a freaking joke William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-07-11 15:05 +0100
          Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-07-11 11:36 -0500
            Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-07-11 18:45 +0200
              Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-07-11 13:50 -0500
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-11 23:09 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-11 23:17 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-07-12 05:59 +0200
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-12 00:09 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2015-07-12 15:49 +0000
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-12 12:14 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-07-12 19:05 +0200
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-12 13:26 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-07-12 19:59 +0200
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-07-12 16:56 -0500
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-07-13 00:45 +0200
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-07-12 20:10 -0500
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-07-13 03:52 +0200
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-07-13 08:55 -0500
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-07-13 10:10 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-07-13 09:43 -0500
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-07-13 11:48 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-07-13 11:14 -0500
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "jeff g." <jeff.g.group@att.net> - 2015-07-13 10:43 -0700
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-07-13 11:18 -0500
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-13 13:38 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-07-13 12:57 -0500
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "jeff g." <jeff.g.group@att.net> - 2015-07-12 10:29 -0700
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2015-07-12 17:56 +0000
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2015-07-12 11:38 -0700
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2015-07-12 19:11 +0000
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-07-12 15:22 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2015-07-12 19:58 +0000
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <"Dan P"@djph.invalid> - 2015-07-12 20:32 +0000
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-12 22:48 +0200
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <"Dan P"@djph.invalid> - 2015-07-12 20:51 +0000
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-13 00:30 +0200
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-07-12 19:27 -0500
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-07-12 17:31 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <dan@djph.invalid> - 2015-07-12 21:32 +0000
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "jeff g." <jeff.g.group@att.net> - 2015-07-12 17:08 -0700
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-12 22:36 +0200
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-07-12 17:41 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-13 00:35 +0200
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-12 17:58 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-07-12 18:06 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-13 00:37 +0200
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-07-12 19:08 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-13 00:37 +0200
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-07-12 19:30 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <dan@djph.invalid> - 2015-07-12 23:42 +0000
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-07-13 04:07 +0200
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2015-07-12 13:08 -0700
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-07-12 12:52 -0500
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-12 14:03 -0400
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2015-07-12 15:54 +0000
        Re: Samba? What a freaking joke JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-07-11 14:52 -0500
      Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2015-07-11 03:32 +0000
        Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2015-07-12 02:41 +0000
  Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2015-07-11 03:31 +0000
  Re: Samba? What a freaking joke philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-07-12 09:03 -0500
  Re: Samba? What a freaking joke ceed <ceed@is.indeed.invalid> - 2015-07-13 09:26 -0400

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