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Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration

From "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration
Date 2015-07-06 20:54 +0100
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on 06/07/2015 08:17:31, "Alex McDonald" wrote:
> on 05/07/2015 23:46:27, Ching-Tang Tseng wrote:
>>
>>
>> To busted Alex,
>>
>> No wonder, I am always feeling that some so called "as one of authors"
>> do m any bad things to Win32Forth, make it diverted into the bad
>> condition, and expel the good contributors away, make them left and
>> don't like to contribu te anything again. After Version 4.2, there
>> were many versions are not wort h to use and to be proved had pirated
>> code from other copyright system. I h ad read these kinds of
>> discussion many times here and feel shame. A lot of Win32Forth users
>> understand these situations. I had ever pointed it out in my article.
> 
> Please post a link to the article. Don't worry if it's in Chinese, I'm
> sure I can get it translated.

I found the post here
http://forthfortnight.blogspot.co.uk/2011_12_01_archive.html, last
article.

Translated from the Chinese via Google translate, it seems to suggest
that Win32Forth v6.14 has elements of other people's copyrighted work in
it; specifically, a bug fix to FEXPM1 which Ching believes was done by
copying code from SwiftForth. And possibly other plagiarised code from
Swiftforth, although the translation is bad at this point and I could be
mistaken.

"On the future direction of the system appears, Win32Forth V6.14 for me,
only the reference value, it is the source of plagiarism swift Forth
[SwiftForth], have more true technology"

"In fact, these later versions are not outstanding achievements, but also
copied many similar swift Forth [SwiftForth] source program or other
system, since copied the wrong place and many have been accused, for
example: Recently someone attacks V6.14 New float.f program The FEXPM1,
it copied the wrong label skip position than after the original author is
very proud of the new post- flaming speechless, so I have to practice
this system feel ashamed. Borrow someone else's program development
system is no shame, do not strictly prohibited, can not be copied, do not
copy, we should respect the original and borrowed indicate the source, so
we can not do a simple courtesy, is a disgrace, it is no wonder the
system scale Disease place so much."

I can categorically state that I have never used SwiftForth, and that
I've never seen any SwiftForth source code (excepting what Elizabeth
Rather may have posted here). Other authors will, I am absolutely sure,
assert that they haven't copied SwiftForth source code either.

Hugh made his contribution in the form of a bug report (although he did
disassemble SwiftForth to provide a suggestion as to how it might be
fixed). George Hubert wrote the correction for FEXPM1 in FLOAT.F. No
reference was made to SwiftForth source code, nor the disassembly that
Hugh provided.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.forth/jVCvbyufTEQ

I take accusations like this seriously, and I'll deal with them if they
are brought to my attention. If anyone can make out any other accusations
in the article, or has any evidence that would cause concern about the
original nature of Win32Forth code contributed by me or any other person
since we picked up Win32Forth 4.2, please let me know here.

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Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 04:29 -0700
  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-05 16:06 +0100
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Hannu Vuolasaho <vuokkosetae@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 20:01 +0300
      Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-05 22:23 +0100
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration bettilyona@gmail.com - 2015-07-06 08:02 -0700
  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 15:46 -0700
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-06 08:17 +0100
      Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Jan Coombs <Jan-54 <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com>> - 2015-07-06 11:39 +0100
        Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-06 15:17 +0100
      Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-06 20:54 +0100
        Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-07-06 12:14 -1000
        Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-06 18:56 -0700
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration josv@planet.nl - 2015-07-06 03:07 -0700
      Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-06 16:13 +0100
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 08:31 -0400
  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 03:14 -0700
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 03:30 -0700
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-06 15:21 +0100
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 12:29 -0400
  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 03:21 -0700
  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 16:25 -0700
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-07 07:59 +0100
  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 21:41 -0700
  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 02:43 -0700
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 03:10 -0700
      Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 03:17 -0700
        Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration mhx@iae.nl - 2015-07-07 11:31 -0700
  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 03:18 -0700
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 08:38 -0400
  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 03:25 -0700
  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 21:59 -0700
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-08 13:04 +0100
      Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration josv@planet.nl - 2015-07-08 14:39 -0700
      Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-08 21:30 -0700
        Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 01:20 -0400
          Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration josv@planet.nl - 2015-07-09 04:19 -0700
  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 15:50 -0700
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 19:39 -0400
  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration josv@planet.nl - 2015-07-09 04:17 -0700
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration josv@planet.nl - 2015-07-09 04:27 -0700
  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 05:56 -0700
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration josv@planet.nl - 2015-07-09 09:48 -0700
      Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 13:00 -0400
  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 15:39 -0700
    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 19:05 -0700
  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 02:26 -0700

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