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Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration

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on 06/07/2015 11:07:52,  wrote:
>> this is one shame thing in Win32Forth domain not belongs to others.
> Win32Forth belongs to nobody.
> IMO Win32Forth is still a nice free system in which a programs can be
> devel oped in a fast way.
> 
> Jos

Yes, very much so. For Windows users, it's a fairly painless introduction
to Forth. It is also almost all public domain code.

The history is quite interesting, and the contributors list particularly
so, since you and I worked with many others in 2004 onwards after Tom
Zimmer's interests took him elsewhere (mainly Java). Win32Forth was an
ITC developed by Tom, Andrew McEwan, Andy Korsack (and Jim Schneider who
did the original assembler). All of it was public domain, except for the
assembler which was GPLv2. I managed to get Jim to re-release it under a
retrospective LGPL in 2003, since it was a bit problematic just having it
released under the GPL.

At one point we had Robert Dudley Ackerman, Ezra Boyce, Dirk Busch,
Thomas Dixon, Camille Doiteau, Brad Eckert (posts here), Bruno Gauthier,
George Hubert (posts here occasionally), Alex McDonald (that's me), Rod
Oakford (posts here occasionally), Andrew Stephenson, Jos van de Ven
(that's you) and others...

Ron Aaron (still posts here, inventor of 8th) ran a CVS for us for a
while, and there was a guy called John A Peters, whom I think ran some
kind of electrical engineering business around Sunnyvale in CA, who ran a
mailing list for us in the early days. I met him once at a Forth Day in
(iirc) Santa Clara, along with Dr Ting, Jeff Fox amd Chuck Moore. Rainbow
Sally (whose real name I never did get) and I hacked all the C code out
of Win32Forth and made it a 100% Forth only system.

A few years back, my interests led me to develop an ANS compliant Forth
based on Win32Forth, but quite different and experimental in how it
compiles. It's never been released into the wild, but I may be tempted
one of these days. I gave up being one of the major contributors and
maintainer of Win32Forth (around the release of 6.14 in 2010) as a
result.

The current versions of Win32Forth are all still PD, excepting the
assembler which is LGPL. That PD is important, since it gives anyone the
ability to take the code and use it as they see fit. Win32Forth (minus
486ASM.F and a couple of other supporting files as they're LGPL) belongs
to nobody and everybody. All of which (as I pointed out elsewhere) gives
Ching carte blanche to do what he wants with it. He's as free as anyone
else to use or abuse it.

Hopefully this also highlights what a steaming load of crap it is that
Ching sees fit to post about me.

> 
> On 6 July 2015 00:46:27 UTC+2 wrote Ching-Tang wrote:
>> To busted Alex,
>>
>> No wonder, I am always feeling that some so called "as one of authors" do
> many bad things to Win32Forth, make it diverted into the bad
> condition, an d expel the good contributors away, make them left and
> don't like to contri bute anything again. After Version 4.2, there
> were many versions are not wo rth to use and to be proved had pirated
> code from other copyright system. I had read these kinds of discussion
> many times here and feel shame. A lot o f Win32Forth users understand
> these situations. I had ever pointed it out i n my article. Have my
> name in your dirty listing is good. It seems we shoul d have a bad
> authors listing as well. Bad author's name should be public. P lease
> don't contaminated Win32Forth with any kinds of format again. Just ta
> lk virus report only for many years, then always to frustrate others
> do tes ting to find out what function calling make it happened, this
> thing include d. Everybody should stop to downgrade Win32Forth by the
> way of so called as one of authors. Nobody will think a bad author is
> an author. Enough is eno ugh. I'd like to use public domain good parts
> only, reject all bad authors doing. Unfortunately, dirty things had
> been mixed in the good system alread y and hard to separate. No wonder
> > just talk sustained so many years.
>>
> > just talk sustained so many years.
>> No reply please. Stop all talking here, this is one shame thing in Win32F
> just talk sustained so many years. orth domain not belongs to others.
> > It is a closed door shame.
>>
> > It is a closed door shame.
>> Ching
> It is a closed door shame.
> 
> 

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  Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-05 16:06 +0100
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    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-08 13:04 +0100
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    Re: Release Win32Forth AVS virus report testing code declaration rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 19:39 -0400
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