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Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about

From HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics, alt.astronomy, alt.atheism
Subject Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about
Date 2015-07-03 06:35 -0400
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On 7/2/2015 9:32 PM, Siri Cruz wrote:
>
> It is true for natural numbers under the usual interpretation of those symbols
> which converts those symbols to the peano notation
>
>      011 + 011 = 01111
>
> You can then apply the peano axioms to derive
>
>      011 + 011 = 01 + 0111 = 0 + 01111 = 01111
>
> And the statement is meaningful and true. However in modulus 3 + is defined as
>
>      +   0   1   2
>      0   0   1   2
>      1   1   2   0
>      2   2   0   1
>
> And the statement is meaningful and false.
>
> You can also define + as
>
>      +   0   1   2
>      0   1   1   1
>      1   0   0   1
>      2   2   1   0
>
> And the statement is still meaningful and still false.
>
> Under the axioms of boolean algebra the statement isn't even meaningful.
>
>
> There is no one absolute truth in math, only truth with respect to a given
> system of axioms. Whether absolute truth exists in reality, there's no reason to
> assume humans will learn it.


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Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 06:21 -0400
  Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 10:44 -0400
    Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-06-26 10:32 -0500
    Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 11:36 -0400
      Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 19:20 -0400
        Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 04:58 -0400
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                Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 14:11 -0400
                Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-30 12:26 -0500
                Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 06:13 -0400
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                Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 14:34 -0500
                Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 14:57 -0700
                Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 07:19 -0400
                Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-02 07:52 -0700
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                Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 13:29 -0400
                Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 20:17 -0400
                Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 06:23 -0400
                Re: What Causes Gravity -- Something to think about talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-02 11:59 -0700
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                Re: As entropy thins mass, space_time expands. Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-02 16:32 -0700
                "Heat Death" (thermodynamic equilibrium, maximum entropy). Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-07-02 18:03 -0700
                Re: "Heat Death" (thermodynamic equilibrium, maximum entropy). Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-02 18:16 -0700
                R.I.P. Gravity. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-07-02 18:49 -0700
                Re: R.I.P. Gravity. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 01:52 -0400
                Re: "Heat Death" (thermodynamic equilibrium, maximum entropy). benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 01:55 -0400
                Re: "Heat Death" (thermodynamic equilibrium, maximum entropy). Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-02 23:32 -0700
                Re: "Heat Death" (thermodynamic equilibrium, maximum entropy). talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-03 04:47 -0700
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