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Re: Super Intelligence

From Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.usage.english
Subject Re: Super Intelligence
Date 2026-10-11 11:45 -0700
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On Sunday, occam pointed out that ...
> On 09/10/2026 09:39, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>> On 10/9/2026 2:37 PM, occam wrote:
>>> Quite! However, keep in mind that 'pattern recognition' has many
>>> dimensions - as many as we have senses. Pattern recognition in texts is
>>> what LLMs do well, because evolution did not prepare us for it . Pattern
>>> recognition in images is what we humans do better, because evolution
>>> made us dependent on it. As for PR in sounds, smells, and touch - I'm
>>> betting AI will do better in the long term.
>> 
>> Now why would /anyone/ have GitHub repos of sounds, smells, and touch,
>> and why would the A.I. do pull requests?
>> 
> Sounds:  point your mobile at a bird-sound coming from the garden, and
> an app identifies the bird (from a database of sounds). (I believe such
> an app already exists.)
>
> Ditto smells and touch - IF AND WHEN we learn to codify these.

Well, some robots that manipulate small objects probably need a sense 
of touch, so I'm sure there's work ongoing for this.

(the first step is already done ... knowing when the squeezing is too 
tight ... it's also how electric car windows know how to stop)

/dps

-- 
Killing a mouse was hardly a Nobel Prize-worthy exercise, and Lawrence 
went apopleptic when he learned a lousy rodent had peed away all his 
precious heavy water.
_The Disappearing Spoon_, Sam Kean

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Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-29 19:11 -0700
  Re: Super Intelligence guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-09-30 10:14 +0200
    Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-09-30 18:37 +1000
      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:34 -0700
      Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-01 20:07 +0200
        Re: Super Intelligence Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2026-10-02 20:01 -0300
          Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-04 09:27 +0200
        Re: Super Intelligence Bob <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:51 +0000
          Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-07 17:15 +0200
            Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 02:03 +0800
              Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 12:59 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 04:20 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 16:03 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 07:35 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 18:08 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 10:01 +0800
              Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-08 09:02 +0200
                Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 21:11 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-10-08 17:29 +0200
                Re: Super Intelligence Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2026-10-08 17:09 -0300
                Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-09 08:37 +0200
                Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 15:39 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-11 17:52 +0200
                Re: Super Intelligence Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 11:45 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 12:24 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-12 10:15 +0200
                Re: Super Intelligence Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 02:45 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-12 12:54 +0200
                Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-13 00:02 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-12 19:12 +0100
                Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 10:38 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:37 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 16:26 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 09:39 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-18 12:30 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence Blaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-18 16:17 -0600
                Re: Super Intelligence Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2026-10-19 11:26 +1300
                Re: Super Intelligence Blaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-18 16:49 -0600
                Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-19 13:02 +1100
                Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-09 10:49 +1100
                Re: Super Intelligence Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 17:17 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 09:39 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 19:02 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:12 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-09 09:27 +1300
                Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:16 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-09 10:29 +1100
                Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:22 -0700
              Re: Super Intelligence squalk <sq@net.invalid> - 2026-10-08 20:17 +0100
                Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:43 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:26 -0700
            Re: Super Intelligence Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-08 11:00 +1300
    Re: Super Intelligence Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-09-30 12:23 +0200
      Re: Super Intelligence "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:22 +0200
        Re: Super Intelligence Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-01 20:07 +0100
          Re: Super Intelligence Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-02 09:21 +0200
        Re: Super Intelligence Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-10-01 22:52 +0200
        Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:26 -0700
          Re: Super Intelligence "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-02 15:56 +0200
            Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-03 12:47 -0700
        Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:27 -0700
        Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:30 -0700
          Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-02 11:37 +0200
            Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-02 20:37 +1000
              Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-07 17:21 +0200
                Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 02:06 +0800
            Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-02 22:57 +0800
            Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-03 12:53 -0700
      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:22 -0700
        Re: Super Intelligence HenryWilson <Hgw@home.com> - 2026-10-02 12:07 +0000
    Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:30 -0700
  Re: Super Intelligence Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> - 2026-10-07 02:55 -0400
    Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 02:08 +0800
      Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-07 23:04 +0200
        Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-08 10:21 +1100
          Re: Super Intelligence Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-10-07 20:13 -0700
          Re: Super Intelligence Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-10-08 08:24 +0200
            Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-08 11:44 +0200
            Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-08 22:34 +1100
              Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 21:13 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2026-10-08 17:01 -0300
                Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:55 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-10-08 21:59 -0400
                Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 10:20 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence Bob <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2026-10-25 15:19 +0000
            Re: Super Intelligence Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-10-08 14:12 -0400
              Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:57 +0800
            Re: Super Intelligence Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 18:10 -0400
              Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:32 -0700

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