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| From | Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Merging .h and .c source files |
| Date | 2015-06-19 14:09 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <mm1485$723$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <mlvstd$i47$1@speranza.aioe.org> <5583e889.815265@news.xs4all.nl> <mm0qi9$3iu$1@dont-email.me> <mm0t83$dcf$1@dont-email.me> <878ubfq41m.fsf@bsb.me.uk> |
On 19/06/2015 13:24, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> writes: > <snip> >> Most other editors I've tried fail the Bart Test: in the middle of a >> line, press and hold Backspace. Instead of stopping at the beginning >> of the current line, invariably they will carry and and delete much of >> the previous one or two lines as well before you've noticed! > > Rather than duplicate so much effort by writing your own, you could use > a programmable editor: > > (global-set-key [backspace] > (lambda () > (interactive) > (unless (looking-at "^") (backward-delete-char 1)))) > > The result is you can build up the configuration for a single tool that > fits all your peculiarities like a glove. Which is not that much different from 'writing your own'! Except you now have to learn a new language and a new set of APIs. (Your code snippet suggests the entire file is stored, conceptually at least, as a single string. My current editor stores it as separate lines, ie. as one string per line. Then accidentally crossing line boundaries is much harder. My entire approach seems different from anyone else's.) Another problem is that for someone who largely uses their own syntax, other things, such as even the minimal syntax highlighting I use, also need changing. That part can get complicated (how to scroll down a function at a time for example?). Then there is the highlighting used by every editor on the planet except mine, where you go to some trouble to mark a specific block of text, but then the slightest wrong move, or you switch windows then switch back to the editor by clicking somewhere with a mouse, and the highlighting vanishes, if you're lucky, otherwise the text itself disappears and you have to hope that Ctrl Z can get it back. This sort of thing is going to take a *lot* of customisation to fix. There was one thing in particular (other than ends of lines not being hard stops) that used to annoy me a lot: you edit a file and save it. Then you come back to it and it's forgotten where you were and you have to start from the top. Now more editors are smart enough to remember position, but mine have always done that. When switching rapidly from one file to another, it is essential that it remembers where you were. Having lots of windows into separate files is not the same thing. (I use windows into separate projects.) Anyway, my point is it can be easier to write your own editor to do exactly what you want, rather than try and customise someone else's. (20 years ago I needed to write a 300-page manual and we couldn't afford to hire someone. I tried MS Word, but even then it had a mind of its own and it was difficult get to it to do what you wanted. It was much easier to write some code to take some marked-up text (using my editor, or course), and process that, complete with in-line diagrams, images and some program code. Eventually it ended up sent to a Postscript printer and it looked beautiful. I could have spent the same few weeks struggling with Word before throwing the whole machine, with printer attached, through the window in frustration.) -- Bartc
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Merging .h and .c source files David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-06-17 16:27 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-06-18 00:35 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2015-06-18 12:51 +0800
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Michael Sorn <invalid@example.com> - 2015-06-18 13:27 +0000
Re: Merging .h and .c source files David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-06-18 15:38 +0200
Re: Merging .h and .c source files gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-06-18 13:42 +0000
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2015-06-18 22:47 +0800
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-06-18 06:21 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-06-18 16:07 +0200
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-06-18 15:29 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-06-18 16:48 +0200
Re: Merging .h and .c source files raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-06-18 21:52 +0000
Re: Merging .h and .c source files "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 03:57 +0200
Re: Merging .h and .c source files raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-06-19 10:02 +0000
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-06-19 11:24 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-06-19 12:10 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-06-19 13:24 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-06-19 14:09 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 15:30 +0200
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-06-19 17:34 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-06-19 17:06 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 09:40 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-06-19 18:12 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-06-19 11:25 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 07:31 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-06-20 17:07 +0000
Re: Merging .h and .c source files "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-06-23 17:44 -0500
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-06-24 01:48 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-06-20 12:37 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-19 22:04 -0500
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-06-19 22:36 -0500
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-20 01:23 -0500
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-06-19 17:54 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-06-19 19:45 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-06-21 07:19 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-06-20 08:52 +1200
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-10 18:44 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-06-18 08:26 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-06-18 16:41 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-06-18 17:13 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-06-18 09:26 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-06-18 18:03 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-10 18:33 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-06-18 10:28 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-06-18 17:28 +0000
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-06-18 21:07 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-06-18 15:04 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-06-19 00:38 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-06-19 01:00 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-06-19 00:10 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2015-06-19 00:56 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-06-19 09:18 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 08:43 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-06-24 11:15 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-06-24 19:23 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-06-24 14:40 -0400
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-06-24 19:45 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-06-18 10:19 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 05:29 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-06-19 08:26 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files "Morten W. Petersen" <morphex@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 04:08 +0200
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-10 17:53 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-10 18:40 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2015-07-11 10:19 +0530
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-11 15:59 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-07-13 18:50 +0000
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-15 08:37 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-07-19 21:30 +0000
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-20 09:46 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-07-11 20:08 -0400
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-11 18:26 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-15 08:38 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-11 15:57 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-11 16:30 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-12 15:51 +1200
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-12 06:03 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-12 21:36 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-07-12 21:27 +0000
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-13 10:00 +1200
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-13 04:16 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-13 12:47 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-14 08:32 +1200
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-15 11:33 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-15 11:24 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-15 12:29 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-20 09:50 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-07-13 18:52 +0000
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-15 08:52 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 20:33 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-20 09:53 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-10 17:47 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-06-18 11:18 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-06-18 11:34 -0700
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Morris Dovey <mrdovey@iedu.com> - 2015-06-18 15:59 -0500
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2015-06-19 12:46 +0200
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-06-18 19:23 +0100
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-06-18 07:48 -0600
Re: Merging .h and .c source files Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-06-18 18:27 +0100
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