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| From | Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.javascript |
| Subject | Re: null and NaN |
| Date | 2015-06-11 11:34 -0300 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <mlc6a4$nr4$1@speranza.aioe.org> (permalink) |
| References | (4 earlier) <6583706.BrqscuLzCi@PointedEars.de> <ml2r7v$7ni$1@speranza.aioe.org> <6931424.mSP66HsXnD@PointedEars.de> <mlc0s1$9tt$1@speranza.aioe.org> <mlc2d0$o3i$1@solani.org> |
On 11/06/2015 10:28, Christoph M. Becker wrote: > Joao Rodrigues wrote: > >> Thomas Lahn wrote: >> >>> Much better. Still _not_ an admission that it is an implementation bug >>> caused by the original JavaScript code as Dr. Rauschmeyer and you claimed, >>> and not a clear admission that it is a bug at all (“reason to believe”, >>> not “is”). But at least properly quoted and cited, and substantiated. >> >> It is still _not_ an admission that *you are wrong* and acting like a >> fool trying to deceive everyone that typeof null === 'object' is not a >> bug. Remember Brendan Eich, Douglas Crockford and others have said it is >> more than once. Now shall we believe in Thomas Lahn or Brendan Eich? > > Argument from authority. No, it is not a fallacy because 'Argument from authority' happens when appealing to the position of an authority or authorities to dismiss evidence, and that is not the case. Brendan Eich *created* JavaScript in May, 1995 while working at Netscape, and he has been an active TC39 member in Ecma since 1996. As such, he is the very authority here. Besides, it is a *fact*, not an evidence, that Brendan Eich *recognized* publicly the typeof_null_bug [1]. [1] <http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=discussion:typeof> Now Thomas Lahn has been blathering that there is no bug at all in typeof null without evidence or references. Maybe Thomas has used his Vulcan powers to psionically connect with Brandan's mind and has discovered the whole thing and, therefore, Thomas is correct. > >> If you had read carefully what Dr Rauschmeyer wrote [1], you'd realize >> the bug in the C++ code that he posted. Besides, there is another >> article that shows the same problem in the C++ code of Google's V8 >> implementation [2]. > > I haven't read the second article, but Dr. Rauschmeyer claims there is a > bug without actual evidence. The respective code could have been > written this way deliberately. The second article [2] shows that Google's V8 engine implementation had to conform to the nonsense of typeof null === 'object', despite the fact that null is a primitive value. In this case, there was not a bug in V8 code as it was done on purpose to comply with the ECMAScript Language Specification, which BTW needed a fix according to Brendan's words [1]. [2] <http://kiro.me/blog/typeof_null.html> -- Joao Rodrigues
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Re: null and NaN Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2015-06-05 00:55 -0300
Re: null and NaN Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-06-05 06:57 -0500
Re: null and NaN Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-07 18:47 +1000
Re: null and NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-06-06 08:39 +0200
Re: null and NaN Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2015-06-06 23:15 -0300
Re: null and NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-06-07 09:59 +0200
Re: null and NaN Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2015-06-07 22:30 -0300
Re: null and NaN Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-06-10 20:48 +0200
Re: null and NaN Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2015-06-11 10:01 -0300
Re: null and NaN "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2015-06-11 15:28 +0200
Re: null and NaN Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2015-06-11 11:34 -0300
Re: null and NaN "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2015-06-11 21:07 +0200
Re: null and NaN Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2015-06-11 17:29 -0300
Re: null and NaN "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2015-06-11 23:15 +0200
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