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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

From Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
Newsgroups alt.atheism, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.
Date 2015-06-11 00:38 +0000
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
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On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:26:59 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 19:54:17 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
> <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> 
>>On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 23:45:08 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:06:13 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 00:59:06 +0200, "Malte Runz"
>>>> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>>>news:ln2bna50lfa6np1igiia3k51lgb9h0m3k3@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:22:18 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 13:12:52 +0200, Malte Runz wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> "Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>>>> >> news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> (snip)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> > Atheism is a decision.
>>
>>Liar.
>>
>>>>>> >>> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in
>>>>>> >> something,
>>>>>> >> and I'll show you a person who is faking it.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> (snip)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >But lying puke _will_ claim he did decide to believe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, those are atheist wannabe words - decide to believe.
>>
>>Liar. Twice over.
>>
>>>>>You started it when you wrote "Atheism is a decision".
>>>> 
>>>> Of course it is.  YOU choose to reject the evidence.
>>
>>Liar. Three times over.
>> 
>>>>>What you're saying is 'the atheist decides to not believe'.
>>>> 
>>>> I say "rejects the evidence".
>>
>>Liar.
>>Rejects WHAT FUCKING EVIDENCE?
> 
> Blindness will not be your salvation.

Puke is drooling again. It's spelt 'Salivation.'

>  God gave us ample opportunity to
> accept him.  You reject the evidence; you pay the price.

You have NO EVIDENCE, liar puke.

>>Neither the in-your-face, proven serial liar nor any other theist has
>>ever provided any.
> 
>>>>>You need to make atheists responsible for their lack of belief, it
>>>>>has to be a deliberate choice, for you to be able to justify the
>>>>>cruelty of eternal torture your god enforces.
> 
>>He's in such serious denial he can't admit that when one has no reason
>>to believe something, then one doesn't.
>>And that isn't a choice.
> 
> 2.2 billion people alive and well today see and accept the evidence. 
> I'm in there.  What's your problem?  Oh, I know - you know better than
> God. 

Everyone's 'better' than a non-existent entity.

> And so you stand in judgment.

I prefer to sit when judging morons like you. I still, sometimes fall off 
my chair from laughing too much.

>>But it takes a psychopath to believe and defend a psychopathic story.
>> 
>>>> You justify your own eternal fate, I don't do it for you.
>>
>>WHAT FUCKING ETERNAL FATE?
>> 
>>>>>> When you believe, you believe.
>>>> 
>>>>>True, and when you don't believe, you can't force yourself to
>>>>>believe, which I believe was the point Smiler was making.
>>
>>A point we've all had to make to stupid, nasty theists.
>> 
>>>> And if finding the EVIDENCE unconvincing, you are an agnostic, not an
>>>> atheist. Technically it's impossible to be an atheist is evidence
>>>> exists.
>>
>>WHAT FUCKING EVIDENCE?
>>
>>Neither he nor any other theist has ever provided any.
>>
>>>There is NO evidence. It doesn't exist, much like your supposed god
>>>character.
>>
>>If there were any, a conversion religion like Christianity would have
>>made sure the whole world knew about it.
>>
>>The usual excuse is free will, but that doesn't seem to be an issue for
>>dishonest apologists all the way from Aquinas to William Lane Craig or
>>any of the other dishonest Christians who claim to have "proved" their
>>religion's god using transparent fallacies.

The major fallacy being assuming their conclusion. None can argue from the 
position that there is no god to conclude that there is one.

>>>> *****
>>>> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>>>> Pope Paul VI *****
>>
>>"Bottoms up"

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:31 -0500
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 22:47 +0000
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:02 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-09 23:42 +0000
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:19 -0500
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-09 00:59 +0200
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 15:06 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 01:25 +0200
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:24 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 18:40 +0200
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 12:05 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 21:28 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-12 04:10 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-12 08:16 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 11:42 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 12:05 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 19:41 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-13 01:00 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 20:58 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 05:37 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 13:49 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:14 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-13 12:17 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 13:44 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-12 14:43 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-12 22:49 +0000
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-11 23:35 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 13:48 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-14 09:17 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-14 17:04 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. hhyapster@gmail.com - 2015-06-12 19:13 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 13:50 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-14 09:22 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-14 17:06 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-09 23:45 +0000
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-09 19:54 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:26 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 00:38 +0000
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-10 20:09 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 12:11 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-12 14:46 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 12:09 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 21:36 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-12 04:07 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 14:00 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-14 09:24 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 13:53 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 23:47 +0000

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