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Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles?

From no.top.post@gmail.com
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.x
Subject Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles?
Date 2015-05-22 08:05 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <mjmnvn$b6e$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References <hfmdncc4jvctWN3InZ2dnUU7-KudnZ2d@giganews.com>

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At Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:33:24 +0000 (UTC) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
> Aragorn  <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> wrote:
> >On Wednesday 29 April 2015 06:13, The Natural Philosopher conveyed the 
> >following to comp.os.linux.misc...
> >
This could be related to the problem that I've failed to solve for 10 years:
 HOW2 know in which of 26 WorkSpaces, Xterm [known pid & cwd] is located.
 Eg. with 99 Xterms spread over 26 WS;
     where's the one with mc open-on <Path/File>.
     
> >> On 29/04/15 00:56, Kenny McCormack wrote:
> >>> What I mean is: The number displayed as the number of columns when I
> >>> do "stty -a", like this: stty -a -F /dev/tty1
> ...
> >A console window running on top of the X Window System is not a virtual 
> >console but a terminal emulator, and it is never indicated as /dev/tty1, 
> >/dev/tty2 et al.  Much rather, it will be indicated as /dev/pts/0, 
> >/dev/pts/1, et al.
> 
> Correct.  The term "virtual console" is well-defined in Linux.
> It's not just some random pair of words, free to be interpreted at will by
> Usenet posters.  In any event, my specific reference to /dev/tty1 and
> /dev/tty2 should have made that crystal clear.
> 
OK then, `stty -a -F /dev/pts/0` looks interesting too.
===
re. my problem:
in the days of KDE3 `pstree` corresponded to the tree of
 WorkSpaces / Xterminals.
Now I prefer blackbox to KDE or any other.
Here's part of `pstree`
|-2*[xterm---mcedit]
|-2*[xterm---bash---mc---bash]
|-linux.oberon.no---pstree
|-xterm---bash---xpdf
|-xterm---mc---bash---Wf---wily

All the Xterms all hang-off of
|-bash---startx---xinit-+-X
|                       `-blackbox-
   instead of being grouped per WorkSpace.
   
Since blackbox's menu shows the Xterms per WS,
the required info is available; but with old kde, I could
ask in which WS/s <Name> was located, instead of
manually searching.

Since Xterms can be moved between WSs, apparently
they don't 'belong' to any WS, unlike PIDs who can't 
change parent?

But Xterms do have common-parents, in the sense that
blackbox's menu shows them grouped under a common WS.

WDYS?
   

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What determines the width of the virtual consoles? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-04-28 23:56 +0000
  Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-29 05:13 +0100
    Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-04-29 06:43 +0200
      Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-29 06:30 +0100
        Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2015-04-29 15:14 +0000
          Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-04-29 15:53 +0000
      Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-04-29 11:33 +0000
        Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-04-29 06:51 -0500
          Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-04-29 13:07 +0000
            Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-04-29 09:15 -0500
          Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2015-05-22 08:05 +0000
            Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? Lucas Levrel <lucas.levrel@u-pec.fr> - 2015-05-22 15:38 +0200
        Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-05-09 19:41 -0400
      Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? Andreas Kohlbach <apr15.7.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2015-04-29 18:09 -0400
        Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-04-30 01:02 +0200
          Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? Andreas Kohlbach <may15.7.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2015-05-02 16:28 -0400
            Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? Chris <cmilnec@spam.net> - 2015-05-04 03:40 +0000
              Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-05-04 11:23 +0000
              Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? Andreas Kohlbach <may15.7.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2015-05-05 16:45 -0400
                Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-05-06 00:21 +0200
                Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? Andreas Kohlbach <may15.7.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2015-05-06 17:07 -0400
            Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? Bill Marcum <bill.marcum57@gmail.com> - 2015-05-06 03:22 -0400
              Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2015-05-08 21:30 +0000
                Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? Andreas Kohlbach <may15.7.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2015-05-09 16:28 -0400
  Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-04-29 06:56 -0500
    Re: What determines the width of the virtual consoles? "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldi@notaserver.com> - 2015-04-29 13:00 -0500

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