Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp
Date	2015-05-14 13:20 -0400
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On 5/14/2015 1:04 PM, Alex McDonald wrote:
> on 14/05/2015 18:00:34, rickman wrote:
>> On 5/11/2015 6:10 AM, Matthias Koch wrote:
>>>> compiletoram
>>>>
>>>> : charconstarray <builds does> + c@ ;
>>>>
>>>> charconstarray arraytest
>>>>    $1E c, $08 c, $1D c, $19 c, $0B c, $13 c, $17 c, $18 c, $1F c, $1B c,
>>>> In the above code, is <builds necessary?  Could it be omitted or does
>>>> it muck with the state or something that is needed with does> ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> <builds does> is necessary because the standard action of create cannot
>>> be overwritten when compiling into flash. So create has standard action,
>>> <builds has no action.
>>
>> So what *is* the standard action of create? Does> puts the data field
>> address on the stack, right?
>>
>
> CREATE puts the data field address on the stack. DOES> adds to that
> behaviour by executing the code that follows it.

Can you explain what is meant by

DOES> “does” CORE
Run-time: ( –– ) ( R: nest-sys 1 –– )
Replace the execution semantics of the most recent definition, referred 
to as name, with the name execution semantics given below.

"Replace" seems to be what Matthais is talking about causing a problem 
in flash.  But if CREATE puts the DFA on the stack and DOES> appends to 
that, what is being replaced?

BTW, what does "Run-time" mean?  The only mention of it in the standard 
is, 'The terms “initiation semantics” and “run-time semantics” refer to 
definition fragments, and have meaning only within the individual 
glossary entries where they appear.'  I guess I don't get how this is 
different from execution...?

-- 

Rick

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Array of Constants in Mecrisp rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 11:06 -0400
  Array of Constants in Mecrisp Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 09:02 -0700
    Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 15:50 -0400
      Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-05-11 00:38 -0700
      Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2015-05-11 12:10 +0200
        Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-11 11:24 -0400
          Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2015-05-12 13:03 +0200
        Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-11 23:19 +0000
          Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-11 20:47 -0400
            Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-12 17:05 +0000
          Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2015-05-12 12:49 +0200
        Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-14 13:00 -0400
          Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-14 18:04 +0100
            Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-14 13:20 -0400
              Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-14 18:46 +0100
              Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-05-14 20:42 +0200
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-15 11:25 -0400
              Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-05-14 09:11 -1000
              Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-15 07:26 +0000
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-05-14 22:30 -1000
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-15 10:03 +0000
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-15 11:05 +0000
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-15 12:51 +0000
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-15 15:40 +0000
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-16 13:40 +0000
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-05-16 11:25 -1000
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-05-15 09:28 -1000
              Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-15 11:31 -0400
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-05-15 09:31 -1000
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-16 10:00 -0400
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-16 16:12 +0000
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-16 13:58 -0400
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-16 18:03 +0000
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-05-18 00:36 +0200
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2015-05-18 08:37 +0200
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-05-18 12:55 +0200
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2015-05-18 13:44 +0200
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-19 00:17 +0000
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-05-16 11:36 -1000
                Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-05-16 11:27 -1000
            Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-15 10:48 +0000
  Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2015-05-11 12:06 +0200
    Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-05-11 04:48 -0700
      Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2015-05-12 12:39 +0200
        Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2015-05-12 16:29 -0700
    Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-14 13:05 -0400
      Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-05-14 22:21 +0200
        Re: Array of Constants in Mecrisp rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-15 11:27 -0400

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