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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Time and sharks |
| Date | 2025-09-16 08:46 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <misf54F1nfkU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <18656bbde563da05$38675$2475292$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <isTxQ.151$68x8.144@fx04.ams4> |
Am Montag000015, 15.09.2025 um 14:17 schrieb Paul B. Andersen: > Den 15.09.2025 11:48, skrev Maciej Woźniak: >> You may announce a sheep to be a "proper shark", >> but it won't affect the real shark. >> >> Samely, your "proper time" bullshit is not >> affecting the real time - which is NOT a >> physical entity, but a cultural one, and >> remains non-local and bound to Earth and >> Solar System. >> >> May be ugly, but works; binding time to >> an observer and local Cs radiation may be >> beautiful and symmetrical, but doesn't >> work. >> > > Tanks for your very wise lecture about time. > But it is something I don't understand, > so can you please enlighten me? > > My questions are: > 1. Can you measure "the real time"? The measure 'time' is actually an interval and needs to have a beginning and an end. This is so because time is based on the idea of counting events of known frequency. And counting starts with 'one, two, three...'. The end of this process is the time of the event in question. Usually the used clock has some internal means to calculate user friendly outputs, which we call 'current time'. But mainly it is based on some sort of oscillator with known frequency and some sort of 'computer', which generates the output. Since this principle requires always a starting point, we negotiated 'universal' starting points on Earth. Of those there are several in use on Earth, mainly the supposed birth of Jesus Christ. Other events are also possible, while also questionable. Jesus for instance was most like born much earlier and was most likely not named 'Jesus'. As far as this is know, 'Jesus' is based on a Greek name, while the actually meant person was (most likely) a Jew who spoke Aramaic, hence certainly had no Greek name. Similar with other 'starting points', especially the 'big bang', because most likely 'big-bangs' are 'relative'. TH ...
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Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-15 11:48 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Jace Dubanowski <jwo@scj.pl> - 2025-09-15 11:18 +0000
Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-15 14:17 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-15 16:14 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Richard Bukowski <iia@sirwihkw.pl> - 2025-09-15 14:59 +0000
Re: Time and sharks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-15 10:46 -0700
Re: Time and sharks Nich Majewski <wka@nwnn.pl> - 2025-09-16 11:03 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-15 16:50 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-15 19:16 +0200
Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-15 22:10 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-15 22:44 +0200
Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-16 10:47 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-16 12:14 +0200
Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-17 20:11 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-17 21:00 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-17 19:14 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-17 21:41 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-17 19:44 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-17 21:53 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-17 19:56 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-17 22:03 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-17 20:05 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-17 22:27 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-17 20:33 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-18 07:05 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-18 08:33 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-18 12:01 +0200
Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-18 14:47 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-18 15:26 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-18 15:31 +0200
Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-18 22:14 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-18 22:37 +0200
Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-19 15:40 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 15:59 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Stefhen Maslanka <nts@anhks.pl> - 2025-09-19 14:42 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 20:17 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-19 19:19 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-19 22:04 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-19 20:59 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-09-20 15:51 +0000
Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-20 22:52 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Azael Christakos <aslo@aors.gr> - 2025-09-20 21:30 +0000
Re: Time and sharks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-21 12:52 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Vaugn Krakowski <ksa@nink.pl> - 2025-09-21 12:02 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-20 23:35 +0200
Re: Time and sharks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-21 12:52 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-21 15:35 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-21 15:26 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-21 19:33 +0200
Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-18 14:48 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Neury Wronski <uuks@wieisrow.pl> - 2025-09-18 16:32 +0000
Re: Time and sharks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-15 10:42 -0700
Re: Time and sharks Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2025-09-15 21:22 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2025-09-15 21:23 +0200
Re: Time and sharks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-15 15:57 -0700
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-16 06:56 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-16 08:46 +0200
Re: Time and sharks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-09-16 12:53 -0700
Re: Time and sharks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-17 08:56 +0200
Re: Time and sharks "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-17 20:26 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-21 10:42 +0200
Re: Time and sharks "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-09-25 15:21 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-25 15:28 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:24 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-25 23:35 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-26 09:00 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-25 15:52 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-26 08:54 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-26 07:26 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-26 11:54 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-26 14:28 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-26 21:38 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-27 08:00 +0200
Re: Time and sharks nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-26 23:27 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-27 08:03 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-26 23:31 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Mauro Górski <iaib@mampg.pl> - 2025-09-26 22:20 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Python <jpierre.messager@gmail.com> - 2025-09-26 18:24 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-26 23:04 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-09-26 19:59 +0200
Re: Time and sharks Hollis Meeuwissen <iii@hsuw.nl> - 2025-09-25 18:53 +0000
Re: Time and sharks Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-09-26 08:48 +0200
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