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Re: Readability part I - code

From David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Readability part I - code
Date 2015-05-04 09:41 +0200
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On 03/05/15 19:42, Tim Rentsch wrote:
> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
> 

<snipping for brevity>

> I agree with you up to a point, but only up to a point.  It's
> easy to fall into the trap of over-prescribing.

This is important in any set of rules or guidelines about style or
readability - getting a balance between flexibility and consistency.  I
don't believe it is possible to make solid rules here - it will depend
too much on the task in hand, the people involved, and the surrounding
circumstances.  (As an example, making a file-wide change to the style
or spacing can appear as massive changes to a file even though it
doesn't affect the logic or generated code.  This will easily cause
confusion to people trying to find the important changes in a file's
history.)

> 
>>>> The exception, of course, is for the "a==3" case above - don't
>>>> copy that style!
>>>
>>> I agree with this recommendation, but not for reasons of
>>> readability;  I don't find the a==3 case hard to read, especially
>>> if it is followed by a blank line.  The reasons to avoid this
>>> construction have more to do with development process than they do
>>> readability - the danger of inadvertently altering the semantics
>>> in unintended ways during editing, even if small, is still too
>>> high.
>>
>> That's the reason for avoiding such a style without brackets.
> 
> Right.  My comment above is based on just that one aspect.

I realise that - even though it was the spacing that I was particularly
interested in here (which is why I regret mixing bracket changes in the
same example).

> 
>> But
>> I also dislike the lack of space after "if", and find the spacing
>> around the comparison to be ugly - I personally find that it
>> affects readability.
> 
> Suppose you were talking to someone who has a different reaction.
> (Incidentally I am one of those people, but this doesn't affect
> my question.)  Can you explain your reaction without the
> explanation being circular?  Here I am taking "ugly" as being
> more or less a synonym for "hard to read".  What about it
> makes it hard to read?  Is it just that this form is what you
> are used to, and the unfamiliarity is jarring?  Or something
> else?  If it is something else, then what?
> 

There are some aspects of spacing that I think are objectively important
- being consistent, having enough space to separate parts of the text,
and not having so much space that it's hard to see what parts join onto
each other.  Thus "(a == 2)" is better than "(a==      2)".

Beyond that, it is much more subjective.   /I/ think "(a == 2)" is
easier to read than "(a==2)", but I accept that some people might have
different opinions.

> By the way I have a related story to tell about this, but I
> will save that for after your response.
> 
>> (I probably should have been more careful to
>> handle one difference at a time, rather than having multiple style
>> differences in each example - but I hadn't planned on going into
>> such detail of exactly what is wrong with each style.)
> 
> No worries, it all came out in the wash.
>

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  Re: Readability part I - code Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-04-15 19:55 +0000
    Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-30 02:00 -0700
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            Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-03 09:11 -0700
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  Re: Readability part I - code David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-16 11:01 +0200
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                Re: Readability part I - code Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-05-21 12:53 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-05-21 11:01 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-05-21 20:18 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-05-21 21:47 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Kusalananda <kusalananda@example.com> - 2015-05-24 07:12 +0000
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-10 08:59 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-10 09:18 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-22 07:15 +1200
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-10 08:53 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-11 14:09 +1200
                Re: Readability part I - code Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2015-07-11 10:37 +0800
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-11 12:51 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-12 10:20 +1200
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-15 07:23 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code jadill33@gmail.com - 2015-05-11 13:30 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-05-11 21:56 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-05-11 23:14 -0500
                Re: Readability part I - code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-12 08:15 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-05-12 16:38 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-05-12 11:38 -0500
                Re: Readability part I - code Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-05-12 17:58 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-05-12 13:44 -0500
                Re: Readability part I - code Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-05-12 11:32 -0500
                Re: Readability part I - code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-12 11:14 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-21 03:27 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-21 08:41 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-24 18:12 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-24 19:20 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-10 08:51 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-10 11:35 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-07-10 14:54 -0400
                Re: Readability part I - code James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-07-10 15:10 -0400
                Re: Readability part I - code glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-10 20:51 +0000
                Re: Readability part I - code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-10 13:22 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-10 20:47 +0000
                Re: Readability part I - code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-10 17:05 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-11 11:04 +0200
                Re: Readability part I - code Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2015-07-11 18:06 +0800
                Re: Readability part I - code Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-11 14:57 +0200
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-11 09:20 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-11 20:06 +0000
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-15 04:55 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-11 13:26 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-15 06:29 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-20 13:49 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-21 07:12 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-21 15:26 +0000
                Re: Readability part I - code Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-05-22 11:36 -0500
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-24 13:50 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-24 23:01 +0000
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-10 08:42 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-10 17:37 +0000
                Re: Readability part I - code David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 10:59 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-12 16:47 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-05-16 17:03 -0500
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-23 06:52 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-11 11:23 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-05-11 23:52 -0500
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-20 09:29 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-05-24 14:56 -0500
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-10 08:30 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-10 11:04 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-10 18:39 -0500
                Re: Readability part I - code Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-10 17:02 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-11 01:23 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-10 17:48 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-11 10:50 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-11 06:55 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-11 15:23 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-11 08:14 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-11 07:53 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-11 22:04 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-11 14:51 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-07-11 20:05 -0400
                Re: Readability part I - code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-12 01:31 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-11 18:24 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-12 19:00 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-13 13:24 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-13 06:11 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-11 23:09 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-11 23:21 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-11 17:35 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-12 01:43 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-12 10:31 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-12 16:12 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-12 18:02 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-07-12 11:16 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-07-12 21:06 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-11 15:44 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-11 16:15 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-15 13:50 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-11 20:13 +0000
                Re: Readability part I - code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-11 23:01 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-11 17:28 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-12 01:53 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-12 00:45 +0000
                Re: Readability part I - code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-12 01:55 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-12 02:44 +0000
                Re: Readability part I - code Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-12 16:51 -0500
                Re: Readability part I - code Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-07-11 10:25 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-11 07:52 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-11 09:25 -0500
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-11 13:15 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-05-08 16:15 +0000
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-11 11:35 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-05-11 23:56 -0500
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-12 11:53 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-05-12 20:01 +0100
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-23 07:09 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-05-17 10:12 +0000
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-23 07:43 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-05-25 14:51 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-05-26 09:17 +0000
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-07-10 07:44 -0700
    Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-30 03:19 -0700
      Re: Readability part I - code David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-30 14:04 +0200
        Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-01 08:07 -0700
          Re: Readability part I - code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-02 09:18 +1200
            Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-03 10:10 -0700
              Re: Readability part I - code Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-05-03 10:43 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-05-03 19:47 +0200
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-03 13:40 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-05-04 12:10 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-05 06:45 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 09:06 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-05 20:27 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-05-06 10:33 -0700
                Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-06 19:33 -0700
  Re: Readability part I - code Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-04-16 12:28 -0500
    Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-30 03:42 -0700
  Re: Readability part I - code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-30 01:40 -0700

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