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Re: Problems with va_list & friends...

From Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Problems with va_list & friends...
Date 2015-04-21 00:24 -0500
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On 20-Apr-15 17:24, Keith Thompson wrote:
> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes:
>> On 20/04/15 19:15, Öö Tiib wrote:
>>> Wasn't it purely hypothetical and especially constructed
>>> example?
>> 
>> It was indeed, but it could be in the next gcc release, for all we 
>> know. So it is not unreasonable to ask the -Werror camp how they
>> would deal with it.
> 
> And the -Werror camp could respond that they depend on the gcc 
> maintainers *not* to introduce such a warning in a new version of 
> gcc.  In this specific case, I think that's a reasonable assumption.

Indeed, which is the problem with contrived examples--and why I asked
for a real-world one that would be more persuasive.

> The disadvantage of -Werror is that it enforces an arbitrary set of
> restrictions on your code, namely those restrictions chosen by the
> authors of the compiler you're using.  The advantage is that it's
> mechanically enforceable.  Choosing to trust the gcc authors (for
> example) to issue reasonable warnings is not an obviously wrong
> decision -- nor is it an obviously right one.

Well, that assumes you're using -Wall (or worse, -Wall -Wextra).  The
keepers of the build scripts may decide that some warnings are _not_
worth the effort and turn them off, but keep -Werror for the rest.  So,
it's not like you're completely at the GCC team's mercy.

I do see a lot of Windows code with #pragmas to disable various MSVC
warnings, whereas I didn't even realize GCC had similar #pragmas until
someone else mentioned it in this thread.  That probably says quite a
bit about the "reasonableness" of each compiler's warnings.

> New warnings in a new release of the compiler can certainly be a 
> problem.  If you're able to control which compiler version is used to
> compile your code (say, because it's a closed-source product and 
> nobody else builds it), then you can stick to one compiler version 
> for a while, upgrading only when you've decided you're willing to pay
> the price of "fixing" all the new warnings.

Indeed, though that _should_ be a relatively small part of the cost of
upgrading your compiler, especially if it's been a few years.  Having a
clean build _before_ you upgrade tends to make doing so less painful,
mostly because you know any _new_ warnings are related to the upgrade,
rather than having to sift through thousands of existing warnings (which
may have changed enough to break your filter scripts) to find the new
ones--or worse, figure out which ones mysteriously disappeared.

> For open-source software that you expect others to compile with
> whatever tools they prefer, it's more awkward.

My experience is that, for OSS projects, maintainers use -Werror for
their own builds, so they're motivated to "fix" the warnings, but it's
not in the public build scripts, so others (with other versions of GCC
or even other compilers) aren't bothered.  Those others may not see a
reason for such "fixes", but that's a relatively minor concern.

S

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  Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-04-16 12:14 -0500
    Re: Problems with va_list & friends... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-04-16 17:18 +0000
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                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-22 10:52 +0200
                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-04-22 09:18 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-04-21 22:25 +0000
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-23 15:59 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-23 11:51 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-23 11:26 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-20 16:15 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-04-20 17:23 -0400
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-04-20 13:17 -0400
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-20 15:26 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-04-20 16:15 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-21 00:42 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-22 11:15 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-20 21:50 +0100
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-04-20 17:04 -0400
          Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-18 08:22 -0700
            Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-19 18:23 +0100
              Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-04-19 13:22 -0700
              Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-19 21:51 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-20 10:01 +0100
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-20 05:08 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-20 11:37 +0100
              Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-23 20:13 -0700
    Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2015-04-18 09:15 +0200
      Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-18 12:13 -0700
  Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-04-16 23:40 -0400
  Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-18 08:11 -0700

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