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Re: Fedora broke

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Fedora broke
Date	2025-08-17 19:23 +0000
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On 17 Aug 2025 09:49:46 GMT, vallor wrote:

> On 16 Aug 2025 22:56:50 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
> <mgcgliFitriU5@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:46:09 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 04:32:54 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> It was just simple software updates that were offered, not a
>>>> reinstall or something.
>>> 
>>> Regardless of that fact, they still may think you need to slow down
>>> even on the software updates. If I were you, I would shoot a message
>>> to the Fedora team and ask them if they are monitoring your usage
>>> habits.
>>> 
>>> Sounds like they are.
>> 
>> It's Fedora. I updated 485 packages on Tuesday and 306 today. It's not
>> a distro for people who don't want to update every few days. However
>> doing the updates hasn't killed my system.
> 
> The frequent updates didn't bother me very much, it was the bi-yearly
> upgrades that always ended up with sessions of rpm-surgery.  I got
> pretty good at it.
> 
> That was with yum though, not sure how much better dnf is.

I missed yum. At first I thought about yast. I had not used any Red Hat 
distro since Red Hat Linux 7.0 in 2000 with the infamous gcc 2.96. That 
release also had a homegrown Python and other surprises.

I put Fedora on a old Windows box I had been running OpenSUSE 13.2 on with 
a certain degree of skepticism. I figured if it sucked I would put the 
current Leap on instead.

Except for a very brief rocky time when KDE, Plasma, and Qt were being 
sorted I've liked it, I forget the versions but I do know whatever I 
started with was upgraded to dnf5 but that was seamless. I was amused at 
first. In my mind dnf is 'did not finish' or in geocaching logs 'did not 
find (the cache)'

I don't think it's as confusing as apt. 'apt update' doesn't and the first 
few times 'apt upgrade' sounded like something I didn't want to do. 'dnf 
update' shows you the new packages and asks if you want to continue 
instead of two extra steps for 'list --upgradeable' and 'upgrade'

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Fedora broke "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 22:30 -0400
  Re: Fedora broke 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-08-16 06:22 +0200
  Re: Fedora broke Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-16 04:30 +0000
    Re: Fedora broke "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 00:50 -0400
      Re: Fedora broke vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-16 06:14 +0000
        Re: Fedora broke "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 02:38 -0400
        Re: Fedora broke rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 07:12 +0000
        Re: 🏳️‍🌈Fedora broke🏳️‍🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmenderdenden...den-den *jazz hands*💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1>  - 2025-08-16 14:32 +0000
          Re: Fedora broke vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-17 09:28 +0000
            Re: 🏳️‍🌈Fedora broke🏳️‍🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmenderdenden...den-den *jazz hands*💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1>  - 2025-08-17 20:43 +0000
      Re: Fedora broke CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-16 08:26 +0000
        Re: Fedora broke "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 04:32 -0400
          Re: Fedora broke CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-16 08:46 +0000
            Re: Fedora broke "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 04:56 -0400
              Re: Fedora broke CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-16 09:21 +0000
                Re: Fedora broke "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 05:26 -0400
                Re: Fedora broke CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-16 09:32 +0000
                Re: Fedora broke "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 05:37 -0400
                Re: Fedora broke CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-16 09:48 +0000
                Re: Fedora broke "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 06:17 -0400
                Re: Fedora broke rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 23:09 +0000
              Re: Fedora broke rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 23:07 +0000
            Re: Fedora broke rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 22:56 +0000
              Re: Fedora broke CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-16 23:16 +0000
              Re: Fedora broke vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-17 09:49 +0000
                Re: Fedora broke rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 19:23 +0000
        Re: Fedora broke Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 00:30 +0000
          Re: Fedora broke CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-08-17 00:40 +0000
      Re: Fedora broke Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-16 08:42 +0000
        Re: Fedora broke "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 04:49 -0400
          Re: Fedora broke pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-16 19:49 +0000
            Re: Fedora broke "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 16:15 -0400
              Re: Fedora broke rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 22:52 +0000
            Re: Fedora broke CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-17 08:47 -0400
              Re: Fedora broke rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 19:26 +0000
                Re: Fedora broke CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-17 15:33 -0400
                Re: Fedora broke RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 11:05 +0000

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