Re: Question on MBPro

From	John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Question on MBPro
Date	2015-03-09 16:17 -0700
Organization	Sept. all the time
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On 3/9/15   PDT 3:33 PM, David Empson wrote:
> John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On 3/9/15   PDT 11:56 AM, David Empson wrote:
>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <0OOdnQv607OJeWDJnZ2dnUU7-fGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt
>>>> Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The blog from the Apple Event mentioned:
>>>>>      "Apple is dropping many of the connection ports, such as USB, in
>>>>> favor of wireless technology. But when something needs to be connected,
>>>>> Apple is offering a single port that can be used for power charging,
>>>>> display output and accessories. It uses an emerging technology called
>>>>> USB-C."
>>>>>        I use my current MBP more as desktop, although I do travel for work
>>>>> so I also use it a lot as laptop. I now have the monitor through one
>>>>> port, the ethernet through another, one of the USB ports has the main
>>>>> back up whilst the other has a USB hub that has the thumbdrive I use as
>>>>> a secondary back up for the articles I write, the iMic so I can record
>>>>> interviews to Audacity, and USB input for my printer.
>>>>>        My question is if I get a new MBP am I screwed?
>>>>
>>>> the macbook pro has all ports.
>>>>
>>>> the new macbook has one port and there will no doubt be a dock of some
>>>> sort.
>>>
>>> Apple is already advertising multiport video adapters, which have a
>>> power input (also USB-C), HDMI or VGA output (two different products),
>>> and a USB-A connector.
>>>
>>> Not cheap: US$79 each.
>>
>> Possibly a better value than $29 for a simple FW->Thunderbolt connector!
>
> A Thunderbolt to Firewire adapter is not a "simple" peripheral. It
> incorporates a Firewire controller chipset (MAC plus PHY), as well as
> the necessary Thunderbolt interface hardware, and probably some power
> management. I'm surprised it was that cheap, especially given how much
> Apple charges for Thunderbolt cables. The Ethernet adapter may be a
> little simpler internally (no power distribution, and I expect Ethernet
> controllers are cheaper than Firewire controllers).
>
> Compare the USB Type-C to USB Type-A adapter Apple is now advertising
> for the new MacBook, which is exactly the same price as the Firewire
> adapter (US$29). It probably has a single chip inside to act as a 1-port
> USB hub.
>
> The new display adapters need a DisplayPort to HDMI or VGA converter,
> something to split the alternate protocol away from USB 3.1, and a small
> USB hub.
>
> Compare them to the iPad display adapters, which are only US$49. The
> only difference obvious to the user is that the MacBook adapter has an
> extra USB socket on it, which apparently makes it worth $30 more.
>
>> It surprises me that VGA is still supported, as I haven't used same for
>> many years. What drives that decision?
>
> Many projectors are still in use which have VGA but not HDMI input, and
> I expect they are installed all over the place, e.g. hotel confererence
> rooms and business meeting rooms.
>
> My user group retired our old projetor just over a year ago, mainly
> because we wanted 16:10 aspect ratio instead of 4:3. The old one was
> still going strong after about 12 years. It only had VGA and composite
> inputs. The new one has way more input options.
>
Thanks. I was a bit cavalier about what the adapter is.

And I haven't suffered through any hotel presentations in an eon.....

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Question on MBPro Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-09 14:19 -0400
  Re: Question on MBPro nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-09 14:39 -0500
    Re: Question on MBPro Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-09 14:52 -0400
      Re: Question on MBPro Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-10 09:46 +1300
    Re: Question on MBPro dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-10 07:56 +1300
      Re: Question on MBPro Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-10 09:48 +1300
      Re: Question on MBPro John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-09 14:06 -0700
        Re: Question on MBPro JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-09 17:14 -0400
          Re: Question on MBPro Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-09 21:47 +0000
        Re: Question on MBPro nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-09 17:51 -0400
        Re: Question on MBPro dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-10 11:33 +1300
          Re: Question on MBPro John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-09 16:17 -0700
    Re: Question on MBPro Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-03-09 14:57 -0400
      Re: Question on MBPro Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-03-10 09:53 -0400
    Re: Question on MBPro Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-09 12:37 -0700
      Re: Question on MBPro tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-10 00:20 +0000
        Re: Question on MBPro Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-11 09:10 +1300
          Re: Question on MBPro Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-10 13:18 -0700
            Re: Question on MBPro Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 20:37 +0000
            Re: Question on MBPro Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-03-10 18:16 -0400
              Re: Question on MBPro Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-10 15:19 -0700
              Re: Question on MBPro Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-11 00:20 +0000
                Re: Question on MBPro Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-10 17:44 -0700
                Re: Question on MBPro Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-11 14:37 +0000
                Re: Question on MBPro tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-12 03:29 +0000
                Re: Question on MBPro Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-03-12 01:51 -0400
                Re: Question on MBPro tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-12 06:12 +0000
                Re: Question on MBPro Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-10 17:46 -0700
          Re: Question on MBPro JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-10 16:19 -0400
            Re: Question on MBPro Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 20:38 +0000
            Re: Question on MBPro Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-10 21:51 +0000
              Re: Question on MBPro nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-10 17:57 -0400
          Re: Question on MBPro nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-10 17:17 -0400
        Re: Question on MBPro Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-11 09:11 +1300
  Re: Question on MBPro JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-09 14:41 -0400
  Re: Question on MBPro dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-10 07:47 +1300
    Re: Question on MBPro Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-09 15:04 -0400
      Re: Question on MBPro nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-09 15:08 -0500
        Re: Question on MBPro Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-09 12:35 -0700
          Re: Question on MBPro John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-09 14:04 -0700
      Re: Question on MBPro Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-10 09:44 +1300
        Re: Question on MBPro JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-09 17:12 -0400
          Re: Question on MBPro Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-10 13:40 +1300
            Re: Question on MBPro Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-10 10:52 -0400
              Re: Question on MBPro Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-10 09:29 -0700
              Re: Question on MBPro Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-11 09:18 +1300
                Re: Question on MBPro Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-10 16:55 -0400
                Re: Question on MBPro Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 21:01 +0000
                Re: Question on MBPro nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-10 17:17 -0400
                Re: Question on MBPro Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 21:39 +0000
                Re: Question on MBPro JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-10 17:40 -0400
                Re: Question on MBPro Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2015-03-12 22:12 -0400
                Re: Question on MBPro Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-11 13:19 +1300
                Re: Question on MBPro Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-10 18:03 -0700
                Re: Question on MBPro dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-11 14:49 +1300
                Re: Question on MBPro Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-11 16:07 +1300
                Re: Question on MBPro nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-10 23:09 -0400
                Re: Question on MBPro dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-11 17:32 +1300
                Re: Question on MBPro Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-11 18:28 +1300
                Re: Question on MBPro JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-13 01:39 -0400
                Re: Question on MBPro Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-13 05:51 +0000
                Re: Question on MBPro nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 02:10 -0400
                Re: Question on MBPro Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-12 23:51 -0700
                Re: Question on MBPro Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-13 09:00 -0400
                Re: Question on MBPro JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-11 01:57 -0400
        Re: Question on MBPro Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-09 20:33 -0400
          Re: Question on MBPro Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2015-03-10 11:49 -0700
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