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Re: What usenet client are you using?

From Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: What usenet client are you using?
Date 2015-02-24 15:40 +0000
Organization Subsume Technologies, Inc.
Message-ID <mci624$1vo$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (1 earlier) <2015022217565993804-anon@anonumostorg> <mcfhvf$5b7$1@dont-email.me> <1m0c3t5.1avm35gu41jp3N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> <mcgqvv$7v3$1@dont-email.me> <1m0dbel.u1zves608k7eN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>

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For your reference, records indicate that 
jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> Or one can simply accept that Mac Usenet clients do not have a large
> enough market to justify more than current development efforts and
> developer remuneration.

It’s not just Mac newsreaders.  The entire market has stagnated, but let’s
not keep rehashing that topic.

> MacSOUP - for example - continues to be
> maintained in bugfix mode (likewise a few others) for which I'm very
> thankful (you're awesome Stefan!), and there are free open source GUI
> and CL clients.

Which is of no comfort to anyone who dislikes them all, or who wants to
do new things with Usenet.

> You seem to want a modern commercial Mac Usenet client without concern
> for the reality of the market.

On the contrary.  I know all too well the reality of the market.  That’s
why I put a (starting) price tag of $10K on fixes to Unison.  Clearly
nobody here is willing to individually or collectively pay that price,
and so it is no surprise that development has stopped.  The market has
spoken, welcome to the reality you have created, stop complaining about
it.

> I've said it before and I'll say it
> again: you set yourself up for inevitable failure, and then couldn't
> seem to handle it when the reality both hit home and was pointed out to
> you.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: your measure of success bears
absolutely no relation to mine.  My aim was to determine what the actual
market was for a Mac newsreader.  It was a success, and it saved me many
hours of toiling away to produce something that too few would buy.

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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What usenet client are you using? John Thornley <thornjohn@gmail.com> - 2015-02-17 21:21 +0000
  Re: What usenet client are you using? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-17 17:36 -0500
    Re: What usenet client are you using? heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-17 15:15 -0800
      Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-17 16:45 -0800
        Re: What usenet client are you using? erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-02-19 12:48 -0600
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2015-02-19 19:38 -0800
      Re: What usenet client are you using? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2015-02-18 22:50 +0100
    Re: What usenet client are you using? heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-17 15:16 -0800
    Re: What usenet client are you using? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-18 19:05 -0800
  Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-18 02:40 +0000
    Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-17 20:25 -0800
      Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-18 04:32 +0000
  Re: What usenet client are you using? John  <email@domain.com> - 2015-02-18 00:18 -0600
    Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-17 23:05 -0800
  Re: What usenet client are you using? Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2015-02-18 12:47 +0000
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-18 17:53 +0000
  Re: What usenet client are you using? unfrostedpoptart <david@therogoffs.com> - 2015-02-18 11:12 -0800
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-18 19:16 +0000
      Re: What usenet client are you using? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-02-18 16:43 -0800
        Re: What usenet client are you using? John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-19 04:46 +0000
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Moi <moi@moimoimoi.net> - 2015-02-18 21:31 -0800
      Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:13 +1300
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-23 17:28 +0000
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-19 11:34 +0000
  Re: What usenet client are you using? Bob E. <bespoke@invalid.tv> - 2015-02-18 21:34 -0800
    Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-19 06:04 +0000
      Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:04 +1300
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Bob E. <bespoke@invalid.tv> - 2015-03-07 20:37 -0800
          Re: What usenet client are you using? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-08 17:49 +1300
            Re: What usenet client are you using? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-08 09:35 -0500
              Re: What usenet client are you using? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-08 09:39 -0500
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-08 18:31 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-08 19:22 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-08 19:39 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-09 08:56 +1300
                Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-08 19:58 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-03-08 16:42 -0400
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-09 13:31 +1300
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-09 14:17 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-10 00:18 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-10 21:50 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-11 04:46 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-11 09:21 -0400
                Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-12 03:16 +0000
          Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-03-08 06:04 +0100
          Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-08 19:48 +1300
            Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-03-08 10:57 +0100
              Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-08 23:29 +1300
                Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-03-08 11:36 +0100
                Re: What usenet client are you using? christian150205@ghanart.org (Christian) - 2015-03-08 12:18 +0100
            Re: What usenet client are you using? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-09 10:48 +1300
              Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-09 14:33 +1300
  Re: What usenet client are you using? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-02-21 17:16 +0000
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2015-02-22 13:20 +0000
    Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:13 +1300
  Re: What usenet client are you using? Bill F <anon@anonumost.org> - 2015-02-22 17:56 -0500
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Me, myself and I <baiheli.pip.li@xs4all.nl> - 2015-02-23 00:05 +0100
      Re: What usenet client are you using? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-02-22 21:20 -0800
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Leonard Oglesby <email@domain.com> - 2015-02-22 21:48 -0800
    Re: What usenet client are you using? TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-02-22 17:07 -0600
      Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-22 23:48 -0800
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-23 11:49 -0500
          Re: What usenet client are you using? John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2015-02-25 23:01 -0500
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-23 15:45 +0000
      Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:13 +1300
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-24 03:25 +0000
          Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 22:03 +1300
            Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-24 12:06 +0100
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-24 15:48 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-24 08:29 -0800
                Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-24 18:08 +0100
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-25 16:09 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-25 17:27 +0100
                Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-25 11:58 +1300
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-25 16:04 +0000
            Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-24 15:40 +0000
            Re: What usenet client are you using? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-02-24 16:15 +0000
            Re: What usenet client are you using? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-25 10:15 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-25 12:01 +0100
                Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-26 03:19 +1300
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-25 14:31 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-25 17:34 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-26 08:55 +1300
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-25 21:16 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-27 03:39 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-02-27 05:10 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-27 09:29 +0000
            Re: What usenet client are you using? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-25 07:40 -0500
            Re: What usenet client are you using? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-02-26 05:12 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-26 08:39 +0100
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 08:40 -0500
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 14:06 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 10:22 -0500
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 15:32 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 17:30 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 13:21 -0500
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 18:45 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 13:20 -0500
                Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-26 15:19 +0100
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 15:28 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 15:39 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 17:25 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 18:32 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 23:17 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 23:48 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 14:04 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 14:03 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-26 15:32 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 13:19 -0500
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-27 03:15 +0000

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