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Re: What usenet client are you using?

From Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: What usenet client are you using?
Date 2015-02-18 12:47 +0000
Organization Ripco Communications Inc.
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John Thornley <thornjohn@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just wondering what usenet client you guys are using?

> I had been using Unison, version 2.2, but it became unusable on 
> Yosemite for me.  It would crash frequently and I was unable to load up 
> some of the bigger groups I was subscribed to.  I took advice and 
> downgraded to 1.8.1 and it seems to be much better, although still 
> freezes and crashes when loading groups.

I've used Unison for years and agree with your observation on how it handles
the binary groups, none of the others come close.

The thing with the freezes and crashes with "the bigger groups", look in the
directory where the databases are, which is usually something like:

/Users/you/Library/Application Support/com.panic.Unison2/name-of-the-server

and see if any of them are around 1GB or more. I don't know what internal
database engine Unison uses but it seems like after those files get past 1GB
(maybe even lower, like 750mb) it really slows down loading that group and
sometimes even fails to load the group at all.

Just delete the large ones. Next time you enter the group it'll just reload
the headers depending on the Preference settings, which I actually have
configured for 2,000,000 headers. On large groups like
alt.binaries.multimedia, usually the purge happens once every 7-10 days but
it really speeds up the load time to enter the group.

For what it's worth, I'm on Yosemite using 2.1.10 and it works fine besides
the large database files problem, but that has been there for years. I
haven't "upgraded" to the last release only because this one runs fine.

If you are talking about groups like alt.binaries.mom or boneless, I doubt
there are many newreaders that can open and keep the headers up-to-date,
those have billions of headers and even loading in 10,000,000 headers
is barely a days worth. It's better on those to use like binsearch.info or a
program called SpotLite (docs/download at):

https://www.binaries4all.com/spotlite/installation.php 

which is bit of a bear because it's written in norwegian or something but
doesn't take much mucking around to figure it out. Both binsearch and
SpotLite end up giving you an nzb file, which if associated with Unison will
grab the download just by double clicking on it.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

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What usenet client are you using? John Thornley <thornjohn@gmail.com> - 2015-02-17 21:21 +0000
  Re: What usenet client are you using? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-17 17:36 -0500
    Re: What usenet client are you using? heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-17 15:15 -0800
      Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-17 16:45 -0800
        Re: What usenet client are you using? erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-02-19 12:48 -0600
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2015-02-19 19:38 -0800
      Re: What usenet client are you using? ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2015-02-18 22:50 +0100
    Re: What usenet client are you using? heron stone <heron@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-17 15:16 -0800
    Re: What usenet client are you using? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-18 19:05 -0800
  Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-18 02:40 +0000
    Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-17 20:25 -0800
      Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-18 04:32 +0000
  Re: What usenet client are you using? John  <email@domain.com> - 2015-02-18 00:18 -0600
    Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-17 23:05 -0800
  Re: What usenet client are you using? Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2015-02-18 12:47 +0000
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-18 17:53 +0000
  Re: What usenet client are you using? unfrostedpoptart <david@therogoffs.com> - 2015-02-18 11:12 -0800
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-18 19:16 +0000
      Re: What usenet client are you using? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-02-18 16:43 -0800
        Re: What usenet client are you using? John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-02-19 04:46 +0000
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Moi <moi@moimoimoi.net> - 2015-02-18 21:31 -0800
      Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:13 +1300
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-23 17:28 +0000
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-19 11:34 +0000
  Re: What usenet client are you using? Bob E. <bespoke@invalid.tv> - 2015-02-18 21:34 -0800
    Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-19 06:04 +0000
      Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:04 +1300
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Bob E. <bespoke@invalid.tv> - 2015-03-07 20:37 -0800
          Re: What usenet client are you using? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-08 17:49 +1300
            Re: What usenet client are you using? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-08 09:35 -0500
              Re: What usenet client are you using? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-08 09:39 -0500
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-08 18:31 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-08 19:22 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-08 19:39 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-09 08:56 +1300
                Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-08 19:58 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-03-08 16:42 -0400
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-09 13:31 +1300
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-09 14:17 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-10 00:18 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-10 21:50 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-11 04:46 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-03-11 09:21 -0400
                Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-03-12 03:16 +0000
          Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-03-08 06:04 +0100
          Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-08 19:48 +1300
            Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-03-08 10:57 +0100
              Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-08 23:29 +1300
                Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-03-08 11:36 +0100
                Re: What usenet client are you using? christian150205@ghanart.org (Christian) - 2015-03-08 12:18 +0100
            Re: What usenet client are you using? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-09 10:48 +1300
              Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-03-09 14:33 +1300
  Re: What usenet client are you using? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-02-21 17:16 +0000
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2015-02-22 13:20 +0000
    Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:13 +1300
  Re: What usenet client are you using? Bill F <anon@anonumost.org> - 2015-02-22 17:56 -0500
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Me, myself and I <baiheli.pip.li@xs4all.nl> - 2015-02-23 00:05 +0100
      Re: What usenet client are you using? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-02-22 21:20 -0800
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Leonard Oglesby <email@domain.com> - 2015-02-22 21:48 -0800
    Re: What usenet client are you using? TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2015-02-22 17:07 -0600
      Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-22 23:48 -0800
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-23 11:49 -0500
          Re: What usenet client are you using? John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2015-02-25 23:01 -0500
    Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-23 15:45 +0000
      Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 06:13 +1300
        Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-24 03:25 +0000
          Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-24 22:03 +1300
            Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-24 12:06 +0100
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-24 15:48 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-02-24 08:29 -0800
                Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-24 18:08 +0100
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-25 16:09 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-25 17:27 +0100
                Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-25 11:58 +1300
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-25 16:04 +0000
            Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-24 15:40 +0000
            Re: What usenet client are you using? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-02-24 16:15 +0000
            Re: What usenet client are you using? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-25 10:15 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-25 12:01 +0100
                Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-26 03:19 +1300
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-25 14:31 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-25 17:34 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-02-26 08:55 +1300
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-25 21:16 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-02-27 03:39 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-02-27 05:10 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-27 09:29 +0000
            Re: What usenet client are you using? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-25 07:40 -0500
            Re: What usenet client are you using? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-02-26 05:12 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-26 08:39 +0100
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 08:40 -0500
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 14:06 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 10:22 -0500
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 15:32 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 17:30 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 13:21 -0500
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 18:45 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 13:20 -0500
                Re: What usenet client are you using? android <here@there.was> - 2015-02-26 15:19 +0100
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 15:28 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 15:39 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 17:25 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 18:32 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-26 23:17 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 23:48 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 14:04 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-26 14:03 +0000
              Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-26 15:32 +0000
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-26 13:19 -0500
                Re: What usenet client are you using? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-02-27 03:15 +0000

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