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Re: Anything to be worried about?

From Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Anything to be worried about?
Date 2015-02-17 18:00 -0800
Organization Chaotic Creations Unlimited
Message-ID <mc0rig$3od$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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In article <p66dnc5m1_FqT37JnZ2dnUU7-cWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <slrnme7g8s.22sv.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> > Okay, so one time? In band camp? Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> was 
> > all, 
> > like:
> > > In article <mbrk5p$svt$1@dont-email.me>,
> > >  John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> > 
> > >> On 2/15/15   PDT 3:38 AM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
> > >> > I am currently on a cruise and using the Wifi on the ship. When I sign
> > >> > on to their Wifi, I get new things popping up in my shared area. Two
> > >> > have a monitor icon, one a computer icon (and this one is a MacBookPro
> > >> > according to the name. One says it is guest.
> > >> >     I am running a MBP using 10.8.5. In system preferences, I have 
> > >> >     remote
> > >> > manager off, allow access only to my administration name, printer
> > >> > sharing is the only thing ticked on. I have NOT checked that it is 
> > >> > okay
> > >> > to control screen or anything else in that box. The changes are locked
> > >> > in the sharing area.
> > >> >      should I be concerned? Anything else you need to know? Anything 
> > >> >      else
> > >> > I need to do to up security?
> > >> 
> > >> And addendum to things to be worried about: (I see your WiFi concerns 
> > >> answered)
> > >> 
> > >> Cellular data. I was on a cruise from SF and the minute I boarded their 
> > >> cell system took over my iPhone, and I was charged exorbitant rates as 
> > >> if I were in Mozambique - all while in US territorial waters. Now I have 
> > >> to blather with ATT about it. Not happy I didn't turn off roaming the 
> > >> second I boarded, but this intrusion was not noticed until too late. 
> > >> $300 I have to fight for. (Mostly map data).
> > >     I got dinged for one minute of cell at sea roaming every time I woke 
> > > up my iphone so I always just put it in on airplane mode unless in St. 
> > > Thomas or San Juan (since both are "local" to my carrier. 
> > 
> > > Another interesting cruise weirdness.
> > >        I was getting texts from my daughter this time despite the fact I 
> > > wasn't actively signed on to their Internet (although I was using the 
> > > free part of the ship's wifi to download the activities) and had put it 
> > > on airplane mode which should have put everything on hold. Nobody could 
> > > figure out why. This was iPhone to iPhone. Not sure if iMessage runs 
> > > differently and some how are connected. Maybe telephathically?? ;)
> > 
> > iMessage works over wifi.
> 
>     On all cruise lines, you have to buy Wifi time to connect directly 
> the Internet for things like email, etc. On Princess you can connect to 
> the wifi and their on-board server for things like their activities 
> calendar, when the bars are open, and other internal type things. Is 
> just being on the Wifi and their server enough to get iMessage if you 
> aren't specifically signed on to the Internet?

If two iPhones (or whatever other kinds of device you might care to talk 
about) are connected to a single wifi point, regardless of whether or 
not they can see the internet, then so far as talking to each other is 
concerned, they're on the internet. Obviously, trying to connect to 
anything that isn't also connected to the hotspot will fail with the 
usual "So sorry, can't figure out a way to get there" result. If they 
connect to two different hotspots (assuming there's no connection 
between the two hotspots) then they're both going to be "blind" to each 
other's existence.

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Anything to be worried about? Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-02-15 06:38 -0500
  Re: Anything to be worried about? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-15 08:49 -0500
    Re: Anything to be worried about? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-02-16 03:46 +1300
      Re: Anything to be worried about? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-15 07:59 -0700
      Re: Anything to be worried about? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-15 11:20 -0500
      Re: Anything to be worried about? Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-02-15 11:43 -0500
        Re: Anything to be worried about? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-02-15 17:19 -0500
  Re: Anything to be worried about? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-02-15 18:21 -0800
    Re: Anything to be worried about? Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-02-17 16:40 -0500
      Re: Anything to be worried about? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-17 22:30 +0000
        Re: Anything to be worried about? Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-02-17 18:47 -0500
          Re: Anything to be worried about? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-17 18:00 -0800
            Re: Anything to be worried about? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-18 13:15 +0000
            Re: Anything to be worried about? Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-02-18 08:36 -0500
          Re: Anything to be worried about? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-18 13:13 +0000
            Re: Anything to be worried about? Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-02-18 08:38 -0500
              Re: Anything to be worried about? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-02-18 23:06 +0000
                Re: Anything to be worried about? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-18 23:38 +0000
                Re: Anything to be worried about? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-02-19 00:00 +0000
                Re: Anything to be worried about? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-02-19 20:40 +0000
                Re: Anything to be worried about? Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-02-18 19:41 -0500
                Re: Anything to be worried about? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-19 11:37 +0000
  Re: Anything to be worried about? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-17 13:46 -0800

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