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Re: time.monotonic() roll over

From	Akira Li <4kir4.1i@gmail.com>
Subject	Re: time.monotonic() roll over
Date	2014-12-04 23:24 +0300
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Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> writes:

> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
>>
>> Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>:
>>
>> > It's not a Python issue. Python can't do anything more than ask the
>> > system, and if the system's value rolls over several times a year,
>> > Python can't magically cure that. The information has already been
>> > lost.
>>
>> Sure it could by having an invisible background thread occasionally call
>> time.monotonic(). It could even be done on the side without a thread.
>>
>> Anyway, the idea of a clock is complicated:
>>
>>  * the program could be stopped by a STOP signal
>>
>>  * the program could be suspended from power management
>>
>>  * the program could be resurrected from a virtual machine snapshot
>>
>>  * the program could be migrated from a different physical machine
>
> This seems like a lot of effort to unreliably design around a problem that
> will matter to only a tiny fraction of users.

- people's computers are mostly on batteries (laptops, tablets,
  smartphones) -- "suspended from power management" use case
- corporations's computations are mostly virtualized -- possible
  "ressurected", "migrated" use case

i.e., the opposite might be true -- non-virtualized PCs connected to AC
are (becoming) minority.


--
Akira

Thread

time.monotonic() roll over "ast" <nomail@invalid.com> - 2014-12-04 16:25 +0100
  Re: time.monotonic() roll over Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-12-04 17:50 +0200
    Re: time.monotonic() roll over Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-12-04 09:05 -0700
      Re: time.monotonic() roll over Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-12-04 18:21 +0200
        Re: time.monotonic() roll over Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-12-05 03:27 +1100
          Re: time.monotonic() roll over Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-12-04 20:09 +0200
            Re: time.monotonic() roll over Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-12-05 05:29 +1100
              Re: time.monotonic() roll over Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-12-04 20:44 +0200
                Re: time.monotonic() roll over Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-12-05 07:02 +1100
            Re: time.monotonic() roll over Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-12-04 12:29 -0700
            Re: time.monotonic() roll over Akira Li <4kir4.1i@gmail.com> - 2014-12-04 23:24 +0300
            Re: time.monotonic() roll over Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-12-05 07:33 +1100
              Re: time.monotonic() roll over Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-12-04 22:51 +0200
            Re: time.monotonic() roll over Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-12-04 15:17 -0700
              Re: time.monotonic() roll over Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-12-05 00:44 +0200
                Re: time.monotonic() roll over Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-12-05 10:04 -0700
                Re: time.monotonic() roll over Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-12-05 20:48 +0200
            Re: time.monotonic() roll over Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-12-05 11:39 +1100
              Re: time.monotonic() roll over Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-12-04 20:21 -0500
                Re: time.monotonic() roll over Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-12-05 13:54 +1100
                Re: time.monotonic() roll over Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-12-05 00:29 -0500
                Re: time.monotonic() roll over Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2014-12-05 08:56 +0100
                Re: time.monotonic() roll over Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-12-05 21:09 +1100
                Re: time.monotonic() roll over Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-12-05 12:12 -0500
              Re: time.monotonic() roll over Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-12-05 08:17 +0200
                Re: time.monotonic() roll over Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-12-05 12:31 -0500
              Re: time.monotonic() roll over Akira Li <4kir4.1i@gmail.com> - 2014-12-05 12:48 +0300
    Re: time.monotonic() roll over Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-12-05 03:12 +1100
    Re: time.monotonic() roll over random832@fastmail.us - 2014-12-04 11:51 -0500
  Re: time.monotonic() roll over Nobody <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2014-12-05 00:54 +0000

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