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On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Rob Gaddi
<rgaddi@technologyhighland.invalid> wrote:
> For this specific exercise, a Square is a subclass of Rectangle because
> the point of Rectangle is to demonstrate that extraneous get/set
> functions are completely unnecessary in Python.  The point of
> Square is to demonstrate that get/set functions can be useful in
> certain circumstances where you need to implement non-trivial behaviors,
> such as making the "width" property into an alias for the "length" true
> data member.

As the Wikipedia article explains, this has its own consequences. A
reasonable test suite for Rectangle would quite probably fail if given
a Square. Hence my belief that this makes for a less-than-ideal
example. But I can't think of *any* good example of @property for a
tutorial. ANY.

> As a learning tool for thinking about inheritance hierarchies it's kind
> of rubbish.  But then again, most inheritance hierarchies are ambigious
> at best, which is why "has a" is often a better choice than "is a".

Agreed. There certainly are times when "is a" is the right choice, but
there are a lot more times when "has a" is the better choice. Usually,
when I subclass, it's because I want to tweak the behaviour of an
existing type (for instance, subclass int and change its repr() to
return hex(self)), so it really truly is a <superclass>, in every way
except that one tiny change. Otherwise, new type with a member. Much
simpler. Much safer.

ChrisA

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      Re: Classes Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-10-31 20:21 +1100
    Re: Classes   Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-31 10:05 -0400
      Re: Classes Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-10-31 08:47 -0600
        Re: Classes Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-31 15:49 +0000
          Re: Classes Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-31 12:31 -0400
            Re: Classes Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-01 03:37 +1100
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                Re: Classes Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-01 04:02 +1100
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                Re: Classes Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-31 13:57 -0400
                Re: Classes Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@technologyhighland.invalid> - 2014-10-31 10:40 -0700
                Re: Classes Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-11-01 11:17 +1300
                Re: Classes Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-01 12:06 +1100
                Re: Classes Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-01 00:12 -0600
                Re: Classes Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-01 17:32 +1100
                Re: Classes Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-11-03 00:32 +1300
            Re: Classes Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-10-31 13:20 -0400
            Re: Classes Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-10-31 19:35 +0200
            Re: Classes Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-31 17:40 +0000
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              Re: Classes Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-01 12:09 +1100
      Re: Classes   Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-01 04:06 +1100
        Re: Classes   Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-31 13:18 -0400
          Re: Classes Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@technologyhighland.invalid> - 2014-10-31 10:43 -0700
            Re: Classes Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-31 14:18 -0400
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                Re: Classes Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-31 19:22 -0400
                Re: Classes Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-31 19:32 -0400
                Re: Classes Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-11-01 12:00 -0400
                Re: Classes Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-11-01 12:42 -0400
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                Re: Classes Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-11-02 11:31 -0500
                Re: Classes Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-11-03 03:12 +0000
                Re: Classes Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2014-11-03 06:29 +0000
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                Re: Classes Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-11-04 18:30 +1300
                Re: Classes Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-11-03 08:50 -0500
                Re: Classes Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-04 02:34 +1100
                Re: Classes Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-03 07:47 -0700
                Re: Classes Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2014-11-02 14:03 -0800
            Re: Classes Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-01 07:51 +1100
              Re: Classes sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2014-10-31 14:24 -0700
                Re: Classes Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@technologyhighland.invalid> - 2014-10-31 14:40 -0700
                Re: Classes Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-01 08:56 +1100
                Re: Classes Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-01 08:36 +1100
          Re: Classes Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-31 17:43 +0000
    Re: Classes Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-10-31 14:11 +0000
    Re: Classes   Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-31 12:49 -0400
      Re: Classes   "ast" <nomail@invalid.com> - 2014-10-31 19:31 +0100
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          Re: Classes Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2014-10-31 14:56 -0400

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