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Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories

From lynx <rinkasu@kaze.void.null>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories
Date 2015-01-26 02:12 +0000
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In <ma40gj$507$1@dont-email.me> Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> writes:

>The concept of an IDE implies that the editor knows a lot about the actual 
>program, perhaps even more than the compiler.  If you have a symbol table in 
>the editor, you could just as well have all the stack effects in that symbol 
>table, and your editor could calculate the stack effect of the definition 
>you are just typing, making it easier to get it right without even compiling 
>the definition - it is just tokenized and stack analyzed.  Further aid could 
>be a symbolic display of the current stack on the cursor position.  If you 
>want the real one on example values, you need the Forth system, but for 
>symbolic ones, the editor could do it.
>
>IMHO you should rather view this as integration of the editor and the 
>compiler, and the benefits are obvious.

I think this what I really appreciate about colorForth & ArrayForth--the
tight working relationship between the editor and compiler.  As you
point out, this integration can be taken even further.

(Sorry for offering two follow-ups. I hacked off the bottom of my first
reply.)

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blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-08 11:08 -0800
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 12:35 -1000
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories empty-buffers <empty.buffersYOU-DONT-WANT-THIS@gmail.NEITHER-THIS.com> - 2015-01-08 23:24 +0000
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-08 15:36 -0800
        Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 16:42 -1000
          Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-08 22:55 -0800
            Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 21:12 -1000
              Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-08 23:27 -0800
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 21:41 -1000
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-01-09 02:21 -0800
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-09 09:21 -1000
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-09 13:07 -0800
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-09 11:46 -1000
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories empty-buffers <empty.buffersYOU-DONT-WANT-THIS@gmail.NEITHER-THIS.com> - 2015-01-11 13:58 +0000
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-01-13 14:37 +0000
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 18:30 -1000
        Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-08 20:47 -0800
          Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 20:49 -1000
            Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-01-09 13:02 -0800
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories a.daniel.eliason@gmail.com - 2015-01-08 14:45 -0800
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-08 15:50 -0800
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-01-08 22:34 -0500
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 17:48 -1000
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-08 21:13 -0800
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 21:09 -1000
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Roelf Toxopeus <rt4all@notthis.hetnet.nl> - 2015-01-09 09:34 +0100
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Roelf Toxopeus <rt4all@notthis.hetnet.nl> - 2015-01-09 12:26 +0100
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-01-09 08:10 +0000
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2015-01-09 03:36 -0800
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2015-01-09 14:14 +0000
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-01-09 15:25 +0000
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-01-09 20:20 +0000
        Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-01-09 20:47 +0000
        Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-01-09 13:08 -0800
          Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-01-09 21:34 +0000
            Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-01-10 14:00 -0800
              Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-01-11 11:45 -0800
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-09 13:28 -0800
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2015-01-10 22:41 +0000
        Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-01-10 18:49 -0800
          Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2015-01-11 09:27 +0000
            Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-01-11 11:51 +0000
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Steve Graham <jsgrahamus@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-12 14:46 -0800
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2015-01-13 00:30 +0000
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Wolf Wejgaard <wejgaard@gmail.com> - 2015-01-12 06:32 -0800
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-01-12 20:35 -0500
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-01-13 03:06 -0800
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories lynx <rinkasu@kaze.void.null> - 2015-01-25 18:25 +0000
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-15 23:08 -0800
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories m.a.m.hendrix@tue.nl - 2015-01-16 03:09 -0800
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-01-16 18:25 +0000
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories lynx <rinkasu@kaze.void.null> - 2015-01-25 21:05 +0000
        Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-01-26 01:08 +0100
          Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories lynx <rinkasu@kaze.void.null> - 2015-01-26 00:56 +0000
          Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories lynx <rinkasu@kaze.void.null> - 2015-01-26 02:12 +0000
            Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-01-26 18:09 +0000
              Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories lynx <rinkasu@kaze.void.null> - 2015-01-27 07:42 +0000
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-01-27 01:25 -0800
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-01-29 10:20 +0000
          Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-01-26 12:10 +0000
            Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-01-26 22:18 +0100
        Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-01-27 08:44 -0500
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-01-14 10:23 +1100
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-01-13 19:47 -0800

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