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Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them
Date 2025-04-28 17:58 +0000
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 13:27:32 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> On 4/28/25 10:56, John Ames wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 10:21:55 +0000 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>> 
>>> We all should hate case insensitive file systems.
>> 
>> Why?
> 
> I imagine that his argument will be something along the lines of "it's
> fascism for my system not to be able to differentiate between Green the
> surname and green the colour." I actually agree that if I name a file
> green.odt, it should be obvious that it is the text I wrote about how
> much I love the colour and not the text I wrote about the Green family.
> However, most people are not that bright and would prefer case
> insensitivity because they would prefer to name a document
> greencolour.odt or greenfamily.odt.

Otoh is you're dealing with a database you very seldom care if the field 
is 'Green Eggs', 'green eggs', GREEN EGGS', or 'Green eggs'. However with 
a case sensitive database like DB2 you have to use UCASE or LOWER, 
relatively expensive operations at run time, or make sure all data is 
entered in lower or upper case.

Ironically, DB2 is case insensitive for table and column names.

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Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-27 10:21 +0000
  Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 07:56 -0700
    Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-04-28 15:45 +0000
    Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 13:27 -0400
      Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 17:58 +0000
        Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 15:46 -0400
          Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 01:13 +0000
            Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-30 10:29 +0000
              Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 17:48 +0000
    Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 19:50 +0000
      Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 16:44 -0400
        Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 01:33 +0000
      Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 01:16 +0000
  Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 11:12 -0700
    Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-28 18:56 +0000
      Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 12:31 -0700
        Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-28 20:03 +0000
          Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-29 01:30 +0000
            Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 04:13 +0000
              Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-04-29 10:00 +0000
          Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 09:23 -0700
      Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-04-29 10:18 +0200
      Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-29 14:18 +0000
      Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Dehmel <blackhole.8.zarquon42@spamgourmet.com> - 2025-04-29 20:11 +0200
        Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-29 19:04 +0000
          Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Dehmel <blackhole.8.zarquon42@spamgourmet.com> - 2025-04-30 21:09 +0200
            Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-02 20:14 +0000
              Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 23:59 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-03 08:09 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:52 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 22:54 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-09 21:25 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 17:53 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-10 09:38 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-10 09:49 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-10 11:06 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-10 11:20 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-05-03 16:48 +0200
    Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 02:43 +0000
      Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-29 19:10 +0000
  Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Gates Loves Them (was: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-29 21:18 +0000
    Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Gates Loves Them (was: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them) Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-30 08:50 +0000

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