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Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern

From Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com>
Newsgroups comp.arch
Subject Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern
Date 2014-12-12 11:31 -0800
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <m6ffq3$cm$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References <memo.20141212191505.4640d@jgd.cix.co.uk>

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On 12/12/2014 11:15 AM, John Dallman wrote:
> The Mill seems interesting, but I am partially sighted, and thus find
> watching videos extremely hard work. So I've been reading through Mill
> Computing's wiki, and have a few comments:
>
> In many ways, this seems to take the smart ideas from Itanium and handle
> them better, hopefully to a better outcome.
>
> The handling of floating point flags is particularly fine, as is the
> automatic generation of Verilog, simulator, debugger and specialiser.
>
> Something that I worry about because it was a problem on Itanium is
> profile-guided optimisation. This was claimed to improve performance
> considerably on Itanium, but was pretty much impractical for large codes.
> Is it envisaged as important for Mill?
>
> John
>
  If you can wade through the "Prediction" talk, you will find there how 
the Mill self-tuning prediction works. Beyond that, we have put a lot of 
effort into making the Mill ISA optimization-proof. When code can be 
optimized it means that the architecture design was lacking IMO, YMMV.

As for our site: I am quite sympathetic to the difficulties the site 
presents, although my own "partial" is hearing, not sight. At some point 
we want to fold the talks into a series of white papers, but for now 
simply lack the resources to do so.

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Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2014-12-12 19:15 +0000
  Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-12-12 11:31 -0800
    Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern peterfirefly@gmail.com - 2014-12-12 11:46 -0800
      Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-12-12 12:06 -0800
        Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern peterfirefly@gmail.com - 2014-12-12 13:37 -0800
          Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-12-12 16:50 -0800
    Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2014-12-12 20:24 +0000
      Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-12-12 12:35 -0800
        Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2014-12-12 15:03 -0800
          Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-12-12 17:01 -0800
    Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2014-12-12 14:54 -0800
      Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-12-12 17:11 -0800
        Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-12-13 04:36 +0100
          Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-12-12 19:59 -0800

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