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| From | Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.arch |
| Subject | Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern |
| Date | 2014-12-12 11:31 -0800 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <m6ffq3$cm$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <memo.20141212191505.4640d@jgd.cix.co.uk> |
On 12/12/2014 11:15 AM, John Dallman wrote: > The Mill seems interesting, but I am partially sighted, and thus find > watching videos extremely hard work. So I've been reading through Mill > Computing's wiki, and have a few comments: > > In many ways, this seems to take the smart ideas from Itanium and handle > them better, hopefully to a better outcome. > > The handling of floating point flags is particularly fine, as is the > automatic generation of Verilog, simulator, debugger and specialiser. > > Something that I worry about because it was a problem on Itanium is > profile-guided optimisation. This was claimed to improve performance > considerably on Itanium, but was pretty much impractical for large codes. > Is it envisaged as important for Mill? > > John > If you can wade through the "Prediction" talk, you will find there how the Mill self-tuning prediction works. Beyond that, we have put a lot of effort into making the Mill ISA optimization-proof. When code can be optimized it means that the architecture design was lacking IMO, YMMV. As for our site: I am quite sympathetic to the difficulties the site presents, although my own "partial" is hearing, not sight. At some point we want to fold the talks into a series of white papers, but for now simply lack the resources to do so.
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Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2014-12-12 19:15 +0000
Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-12-12 11:31 -0800
Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern peterfirefly@gmail.com - 2014-12-12 11:46 -0800
Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-12-12 12:06 -0800
Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern peterfirefly@gmail.com - 2014-12-12 13:37 -0800
Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-12-12 16:50 -0800
Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2014-12-12 20:24 +0000
Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-12-12 12:35 -0800
Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2014-12-12 15:03 -0800
Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-12-12 17:01 -0800
Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2014-12-12 14:54 -0800
Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-12-12 17:11 -0800
Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-12-13 04:36 +0100
Re: Reading the Mill wiki: comments and a concern Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-12-12 19:59 -0800
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