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| From | "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.lisp |
| Subject | Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP |
| Date | 2019-05-23 19:30 +0200 |
| Organization | Informatimago |
| Message-ID | <m2h89l3wpc.fsf@despina.home> (permalink) |
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a.daniel.eliason@gmail.com writes: > On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 7:22:34 PM UTC+2, informatimago wrote: >> ... >> Nowadays, unix >> runs computers mostly for single-user computers (phones, tablets, >> workstations), and very rarely for multiple users on big-iron. >> ... >> __Pascal J. Bourguignon__ >> http://www.informatimago.com > > > AH, ahem, uh, (cough, cough)... WHAT?!!! I agree with all your > overall discussion on this topic, but to take a slightly off-topic > focus on the bit quoted above, "Are you sure that actually turns out > to be the case??" > > I think counting hardware instances, with smartphones adding with > laptops and desktops and all, it probably does weigh more heavily on > the "single user computers" side. But what about Google? Amazon? > IBM? Even Microsoft? These huge data center services, there's lots > of machines there running Linux (I assume that counts as "Unix") and > serving many, many users on each hardware frame. Technologies like > Docker are pulling users back onto a single Unix instance from VM > technologies in these places. Even in VM environments, each VM > running Unix is serving so many users. > > We can get into semantics of the concept of "user" versus "service > request context", but, well, my point is that the idea of a multi-user > Unix box is hardly "rare" these days! (Even if the single user > instances are even more abundant.) > > (I don't want to contradict.. if you have a different interpretation, > well OK, just wanted to add my point of view.) Certainly a better metric would be in order. But in anycase, by definition there will be fewer multi-user computers than single-user computers. The business value of companies like Google is in reducing the number of computers they need to use to serve the 7 billion potential users. The business value of companies like Apple or Samsung is to increase the number of hand-held computers the sell to the 7 billion potential users. Apple will never make a iUberPhone! "Press a button, and some random iPhone will be brought to your position in less than five minutes so you make your call or send you tweet!" Anybody? -- __Pascal J. Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com
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Buffer Overflow in LISP yara.huss.113@gmail.com - 2019-04-25 03:52 -0700
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP shcv@sdf.org - 2019-04-25 09:21 -0400
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2019-04-25 15:21 +0200
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2019-04-25 11:04 -0400
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2019-04-25 19:22 +0200
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2019-04-28 08:34 +0000
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2019-04-29 12:31 -0400
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP a.daniel.eliason@gmail.com - 2019-05-23 08:35 -0700
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP Kaz Kylheku <847-115-0292@kylheku.com> - 2019-05-23 17:02 +0000
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-05-30 15:50 -0400
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2019-05-23 19:30 +0200
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP taruss@google.com - 2019-05-24 10:40 -0700
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2019-05-24 10:45 -0700
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2019-05-24 23:27 +0200
[OT] was: Buffer Overflow in LISP Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-05-24 22:46 +0100
Re: [OT] was: Buffer Overflow in LISP "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2019-05-25 01:00 +0200
Re: [OT] was: Buffer Overflow in LISP Kaz Kylheku <847-115-0292@kylheku.com> - 2019-05-24 23:46 +0000
Re: [OT] was: Buffer Overflow in LISP Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2019-05-25 01:35 +0100
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP Jason Cornez <jcornez@ravenpack.com> - 2019-05-29 16:10 +0200
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2019-05-29 20:25 +0200
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP Vladimir Sedach <vsedach@oneofus.la> - 2019-09-22 21:26 -0700
Re: Buffer Overflow in LISP Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2019-09-23 00:45 -0400
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