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Re: Intel Atom: pros/cons/hazzards?

From rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design, comp.arch.embedded
Subject Re: Intel Atom: pros/cons/hazzards?
Date 2014-09-20 19:09 -0400
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On 9/20/2014 6:46 PM, Don Y wrote:
> On 9/20/2014 2:54 PM, Dombo wrote:
>> Op 20-Sep-14 22:41, Don Y schreef:
>>> On 9/20/2014 1:34 PM, rickman wrote:
>>
>>>> My understanding is exactly the opposite.  You can use it any way you
>>>> wish on
>>>> your own.  But if you share your work with others you just have to
>>>> share the
>>>> source code as well.  I don't see any restriction on who or how you
>>>> share any
>>>> of this.  :S
>>>
>>> It *requires* you to share it!
>>>
>>> Does your employer share *his* codebase with his customers?
>>> Competitors??
>>>
>>> I want to make changes, improvements to a piece of code.  I don't
>>> want to
>>> *have to* share it.
>>
>> If you want to take but not give then GPL is not for you. You are not
>> alone in
>> avoiding the GPL; the conditions stated in the GPL are often not
>> acceptable in
>> a (traditional) commercial setting and are either worked around or
>> avoided
>> altogether by choosing a product which has a licensing scheme that is
>> more
>> compatible with commercial requirements.
>
> It's not just "take but not give".  E.g., I plan on offering all of my
> sources
> to "anyone who wants them, to do with EXACTLY as they please" -- with the
> sole requirement that they acknowledge me as the original copyright holder
> and indemnify me from damages, etc.
>
> However, if *they* don't want to share what THEY add; or, don't want to
> assume responsibility for redistributing *my* sources (or even disclosing
> *which* sources they used!), then they shouldn't be REQUIRED to do so!

If you code is covered by the GPL by being part of some existing GPL 
code, how can you be sharing it without also sharing the original GPL 
code.  Is this an issue of defining *when* code must be covered by the GPL?


> If I deliver my sources to exactly ONE entity and then decide never to
> offer them to any other entities, the first entity can LEGALLY keep them
> "hidden" with no other obligations to me or any of his customers, etc.
>
> This is how traditional licenses work -- you are free to do what you want
> (and ONLY what you want!) with things that you "own".

Good luck on that one.  You "own" *NOTHING*.  Try telling the government 
that you "own" your house and you don't want to pay the taxes on it 
since it is yours and not theirs.  Or try adding a second story without 
a permit, or ...

You still "own" the code you have written even though it is covered by 
GPL.  You just are required to provide sources if you give it to anyone 
else.  As with *many* things there are limits to what you can do with 
the things you own.


> I have no desire to "educate" potential commercial (or private) concerns
> as to how they can "live within" the GPL.  I'll just avoid it entirely and
> be none the worse for wear!  (because there are unencumbered alternatives)
>
> My goal is to see my code *used*.  As it doesn't run on a generic PC,
> "being used" means having people invest in creating hardware designs AND
> BUILDING THOSE DESIGNS.  A big incentive for doing that is if they feel
> they
> can PROFIT from that (moreso than a 10% markup on a "board + components")
>
> Who wants to invest thousands of dollars in a design, marketing, support,
> enhancements, etc. if you are competing with SparkFun?

I do.  I am looking for a project I can design and produce to the 
"hobby" market with some potential for the professional market.  My 
stumbling block is the software that is required for most projects these 
days.  I've looked at the rPi and can't find an example of a decent 
driver as one example.

-- 

Rick

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Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-17 00:46 -0700
  Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-17 04:05 -0400
    Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? dplatt@coop.radagast.org (David Platt) - 2014-09-17 11:09 -0700
    Re: Intel Atom: pros/cons/hazzards? Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2014-09-17 22:52 -0500
  Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? mroberds@att.net - 2014-09-17 08:21 +0000
    Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-17 02:00 -0700
      Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-17 13:08 +0200
        Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? JW <none@dev.null> - 2014-09-17 08:24 -0400
      Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? mroberds@att.net - 2014-09-17 21:44 +0000
        Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? dplatt@coop.radagast.org (David Platt) - 2014-09-17 15:04 -0700
        Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-18 00:28 -0700
          Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-18 03:41 -0400
            Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-18 03:31 -0700
              Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-18 18:12 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-18 15:53 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-18 19:22 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-18 17:18 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-09-18 21:16 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-18 21:44 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-19 09:19 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-19 01:36 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-19 11:53 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-19 03:10 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-19 13:02 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-19 04:26 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-19 13:50 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-19 10:16 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-20 16:42 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-20 12:19 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-20 21:58 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-20 13:33 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-09-20 23:00 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-20 16:14 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-09-21 02:12 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-20 20:05 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-21 12:45 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-20 16:34 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-20 13:41 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-20 17:29 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid> - 2014-09-21 00:12 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-20 19:01 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-20 16:17 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-09-21 02:17 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-20 22:27 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-09-21 13:25 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid> - 2014-09-21 15:56 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-21 18:19 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-21 09:37 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-21 14:22 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-09-21 23:13 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-21 14:20 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-09-21 23:15 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-21 20:20 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-20 16:09 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-20 22:05 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-20 23:25 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-21 03:28 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-21 01:27 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid> - 2014-09-21 14:20 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-21 13:09 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-21 12:06 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-22 09:55 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid> - 2014-09-20 23:54 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-20 15:46 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-20 19:09 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-20 16:29 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-20 22:11 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-20 20:40 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-21 00:56 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-20 23:40 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-21 03:35 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-21 01:47 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-21 07:33 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-21 11:56 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-21 20:32 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2014-09-22 11:03 +1000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-21 18:18 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2014-09-22 11:53 +1000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-21 19:05 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-21 19:05 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? krw@attt.bizz - 2014-09-21 11:50 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2014-09-21 18:50 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-21 20:09 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2014-09-21 21:25 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-21 22:12 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2014-09-23 09:38 -0500
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-09-22 10:15 +0100
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-22 04:59 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? krw@attt.bizz - 2014-09-22 15:38 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-22 10:02 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-22 01:44 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-22 05:25 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-22 12:44 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-22 04:33 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-09-22 13:00 +0100
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-22 05:02 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-22 15:19 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-09-22 14:35 +0100
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-22 07:55 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-22 17:35 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-22 10:06 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-22 10:25 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2014-09-22 19:48 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-22 20:46 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2014-10-08 12:34 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-10-08 13:10 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-08 17:31 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-10-08 14:53 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-10-08 15:06 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2014-10-09 19:09 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-09 13:44 -0500
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-10-09 22:31 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2014-10-09 17:29 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2014-10-09 17:31 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-09 21:25 -0500
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2014-10-09 23:27 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-10-09 21:56 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2014-10-10 18:48 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-10-10 10:43 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2014-10-11 21:25 +0100
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? krw@attt.bizz - 2014-10-10 18:27 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-10-11 03:05 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-22 18:43 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-09-22 23:36 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-22 16:48 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-09-23 01:05 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-22 18:47 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-09-23 02:11 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-22 22:24 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-23 00:29 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-23 10:07 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom: pros/cons/hazzards? Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2014-09-23 07:14 -0500
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-22 23:43 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? krw@attt.bizz - 2014-09-23 13:14 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2014-09-23 18:18 -0500
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-23 19:28 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? krw@attt.bizz - 2014-09-23 19:58 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-23 16:52 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? krw@attt.bizz - 2014-09-23 19:57 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2014-10-08 12:39 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-22 18:38 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-09-22 23:41 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-22 23:27 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-09-23 05:34 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-23 02:21 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2014-09-24 09:42 -0500
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-23 09:51 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2014-09-23 18:23 -0500
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-23 16:53 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2014-09-24 08:15 -0500
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-24 10:52 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-09-24 21:51 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-24 15:57 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-23 09:52 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-23 18:19 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-23 15:33 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-23 18:38 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-23 15:59 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-23 19:03 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-09-24 00:15 +0100
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-23 19:30 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-23 16:56 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-09-24 02:09 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-23 20:17 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-23 17:26 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-23 21:20 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-09-23 23:42 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2014-10-08 12:41 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-09-22 17:03 +0100
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-22 10:19 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-22 15:21 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-09-22 12:55 +0100
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-09-22 12:25 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-22 05:37 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-09-22 14:37 +0100
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-09-22 14:32 +0100
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-22 07:01 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2014-09-22 15:22 +0100
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-22 08:01 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-23 00:35 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Stef <stef33d@yahooI-N-V-A-L-I-D.com.invalid> - 2014-09-23 09:09 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom: pros/cons/hazzards? Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2014-09-23 07:16 -0500
                Re: Intel Atom: pros/cons/hazzards? Andrew Smallshaw <andrews@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2014-09-23 14:45 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2014-09-23 10:08 -0500
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-23 10:03 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-23 13:52 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-09-22 20:53 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-22 15:00 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-09-22 22:14 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-22 15:51 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2014-09-23 10:17 -0500
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-23 13:57 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-23 18:28 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-22 04:39 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? langwadt@fonz.dk - 2014-09-20 16:33 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-20 22:17 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? langwadt@fonz.dk - 2014-09-21 12:24 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-22 00:00 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-09-19 23:15 +0000
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-19 07:58 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-19 10:41 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-19 07:59 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-19 03:08 -0400
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-19 01:17 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-09-19 21:15 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom: pros/cons/hazzards? Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2014-09-20 14:36 -0500
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? "Boudewijn Dijkstra" <sp4mtr4p.boudewijn@indes.com> - 2014-09-19 10:02 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-19 04:20 -0400
          Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? "Boudewijn Dijkstra" <sp4mtr4p.boudewijn@indes.com> - 2014-09-18 16:20 +0200
            Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-18 10:25 -0700
              Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? "Boudewijn Dijkstra" <sp4mtr4p.boudewijn@indes.com> - 2014-09-19 09:36 +0200
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-19 01:27 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-09-19 21:35 -0700
                Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-20 11:54 -0700
          Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? mroberds@att.net - 2014-09-18 19:33 +0000
            Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-18 13:18 -0700
          Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Przemek Klosowski <przemek@tux.dot.org> - 2014-09-21 12:34 +0000
            Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? krw@attt.bizz - 2014-09-21 11:54 -0400
    Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? edward.ming.lee@gmail.com - 2014-09-17 08:10 -0700
    Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-09-17 15:11 +0000
    Re: Intel Atom: pros/cons/hazzards? Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2014-09-17 22:53 -0500
  Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-09-17 13:33 -0700
    Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2014-09-18 03:35 -0500
  Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Allan Herriman <allanherriman@hotmail.com> - 2014-09-18 13:16 +0000
  Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2014-09-25 13:51 +0300
    Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? dplatt@coop.radagast.org (David Platt) - 2014-09-25 09:58 -0700
      Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2014-09-29 21:46 +0300
    Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2014-09-25 10:07 -0700
      Re: Intel Atom:  pros/cons/hazzards? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-25 18:32 -0400
  Re: Intel Atom: pros/cons/hazzards? "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2014-10-10 09:53 +0000

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