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Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea

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Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> wrote:
> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> >> In article <FFMZh+gZtKnIvllfI6s+Dsz7@dont-email.me>, Rich
> >> <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> >> > http://mortoray.com/2014/09/15/blocking-javascript-seems-like-a-good-idea/
> >> > 
> >> >    My fancy new website is broken due to a script blocking
> >> >    extension. I found this out when I showed a friend the Radial
> >> >    Blitz website. He complained that something was lacking. He
> >> >    turned on screen sharing to show me and sure enough my large
> >> >    screenshot slider was nowhere to be seen.
> >> > 
> >> >    Turns out a script blocking extension was causing the
> >> >    problem. Obviously I didn't expect the slide show to
> >> >    function, but I expected at least a static image. The theme
> >> >    designer likely never even considered that somebody would
> >> >    have JavaScript disabled. Should they, or is JavaScript a
> >> >    critical web technology?
> >> > 
> >> >    I don't think it's useful to argue for JavaScript, it's
> >> >    features are well known and I find it invaluable. Instead I'd
> >> >    like to consider why somebody would disable it. To my own
> >> >    chagrin, my list seems to support their position.
> > 
> >> In my email client, I disable any javascript an email may contain
> >> when displaying that email. My email client doesn't run without
> >> javascript enabled but I do at least give a polite message to
> >> users to that effect, if they try to run with it disabled in the
> >> browser.
> > 
> > My email client is mutt, so there is no need to disable javascript,
> > because text mode email clients do not know anything about html
> > formatted emails to even begin to think about javascript.

> Mine too, been using mutt for 10 or 15 years now.

I'm probably close to the 15 year mark myself.  Switched to mutt back
when it was clear that elm development had halted, and wasn't going to
pick back up.  And since mutt and elm are more similar than different,
the switch was not a big transition.

> As an aside, I never understood why people were deceived by scam
> emails, a glance at the route path on any suspicious email should be
> a quick verification.

Yeah, a quick "h" when viewing the email (assuming one uses mutt's
built in viewer) to see the headers, and one can see through a lot of
scams.  But then again, most (99%) of the scams I either 1) don't see
anyway (crm114's already filtered them away) or 2) I notice as scams
without even needing to look at the headers.

> Then I tried looking at the email headers in MS Outhouse; it opened a
> text box that displayed just a couple of header lines, no wonder MS
> users get suckered by scam emails. I guess MS considers its users too
> dumb to view email headers.

Honestly, that's MS's total thought process: "the users are too dumb to
understand" ... "so don't show it to them".

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Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-15 10:18 +0000
  Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-09-15 11:30 +0100
    Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-15 10:34 +0000
      Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2014-09-15 20:27 +0000
        Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-15 22:23 +0000
  Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-09-15 14:32 +0100
    Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-15 22:27 +0000
      Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-09-16 04:26 -0300
        Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-16 10:08 +0000
      Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-09-16 14:34 -0400
      Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2014-09-16 20:12 +0000
        Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-09-18 15:39 -0300
          Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-09-18 20:25 +0100
            Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-09-18 23:41 +0300
            Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-09-19 12:56 +0200
              Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-09-19 12:57 +0100
              Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-09-19 15:50 -0300
                Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-09-19 21:57 +0100
          Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-18 23:32 +0000
            Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-09-19 16:37 +0000
              Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-09-19 20:19 +0200
    Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Underactive Moth <underactivemoth@gmail.com> - 2014-09-16 08:21 +0000
      Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-16 10:10 +0000
      Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-09-16 13:57 +0100
  Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-09-15 14:24 +0000
    Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-09-15 14:37 -0300
      Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2014-09-15 20:20 +0000
        Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2014-09-16 04:14 -0300
  Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-09-19 07:40 +0000
    Re: Blocking JavaScript seems like a good idea Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-09-20 02:42 +0200

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