Re: Damned BIOS

From	Rich <rich@example.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: Damned BIOS
Date	2014-09-02 21:09 +0000
Organization	My Linux Box
Message-ID	<lu5bm4$iio$4@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
> On 2014-09-02, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> > Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:
> >> When I say boot from device X, I mean do that. If it won't work, say
> >> so.  I don't mean "Have a fair go at X, and if it won't work, then
> >> see if you can find some other OS lying around and boot that
> >> instead."
> >
> > Keep in mind, the code about which you complain is from the same
> > authors who created this error message from years ago:
> >
> >   Keyboard not found - press F1 key to continue
> >
> > http://www.jobless-jack.com/2013/07/da-fuck-o-keyboard-not-found.html
> >
> > Such stupidity does not inspire confidence in their ability to
> > determine even a mildly good way to do things,

> I can understand why people hate this error message, but to me it always
> made sense: "There is apparently no keyboard present, which is bad.  So
> plug one in, jackass, and prove it by pressing F1 when you're done."

Except that for the early BIOS'es that exhibited this error, hot
plugging in a keyboard after the fact did not work, because the BIOS
was stuck in the "wait for key" loop, and never went back and
initialized the keyboard hardware if a keyboard got plugged in later.

> That is a reasonable sequence for a desktop computer that ought to
> have a keyboard attached (and stupid if you're running a headless
> server, in which case you're probably smart enough to disable that
> check in the BIOS anyway).

The same MB's that had this message usually had no "disable keyboard
check" option in their setup routines.  So a "headless" server needed a
keyboard attached or else it wouldn't boot at all.

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Damned BIOS Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2014-09-02 15:05 +1000
  Re: Damned BIOS Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-02 08:06 +0000
    Re: Damned BIOS Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2014-09-02 19:38 +1000
      Re: Damned BIOS Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-02 12:06 +0000
        Re: Damned BIOS Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2014-09-03 12:15 +1000
      Re: Damned BIOS Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-09-02 15:39 +0100
        Re: Damned BIOS Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2014-09-03 12:22 +1000
          Re: Damned BIOS Scion <a.b@nospam.invalid> - 2014-09-10 10:16 +0000
            Re: Damned BIOS Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2014-09-14 15:27 +1000
              Re: Damned BIOS Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-09-14 14:25 +0100
    Re: Damned BIOS RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-09-02 18:19 +0000
      Re: Damned BIOS polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2014-09-02 19:52 +0100
        Re: Damned BIOS Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-09-02 19:41 +0000
          Re: Damned BIOS polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2014-09-02 21:12 +0100
            Re: Damned BIOS Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-09-02 21:00 +0000
              Re: Damned BIOS polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2014-09-02 22:08 +0100
              Re: Damned BIOS Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-02 21:14 +0000
              Re: Damned BIOS Will Honea <whonea@whonea.net> - 2014-09-02 23:10 -0600
                Re: Damned BIOS Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-09-03 05:58 +0000
              Re: Damned BIOS Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-09-14 08:26 +0200
      Re: Damned BIOS Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-09-02 21:09 +0000
  Re: Damned BIOS Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-09-02 14:29 +0100
    Re: Damned BIOS Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-09-02 16:35 +0200
      Re: Damned BIOS Scion <a.b@nospam.invalid> - 2014-09-10 10:18 +0000
        Re: Damned BIOS Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-09-10 13:46 +0200
          Re: Damned BIOS Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-09-10 13:00 +0000
            Re: Damned BIOS Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-09-10 19:28 +0200
              Re: Damned BIOS Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-09-10 19:11 +0000
                Re: Damned BIOS Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-09-14 08:44 +0200
                Re: Damned BIOS Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-09-14 07:17 +0000
              Re: Damned BIOS Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-09-14 08:33 +0200
        Re: Damned BIOS Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-09-10 13:53 +0100
          Re: Damned BIOS Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-09-14 08:30 +0200

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