Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations

From	MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com>
Newsgroups	aus.cars
Subject	Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations
Date	2024-12-29 16:18 +1100
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On 29/12/2024 4:07 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 29/12/2024 4:01 pm, MightyMouse wrote:
>> On 29/12/2024 12:15 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 28/12/2024 2:24 pm, MightyMouse wrote:
>>>> On 28/12/2024 3:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 28/12/2024 2:43 pm, MightyMouse wrote:
>>>>>> On 28/12/2024 10:21 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>> On 28/12/2024 8:19 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 27/12/2024 8:32 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 27/12/2024 7:07 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **I just listen to the people who know their business. My 
>>>>>>>>>> mechanic tells me to change the oil every 6 months and he 
>>>>>>>>>> only uses good quality synthetic oil. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If your mechanic is really telling you that then he most 
>>>>>>>>> definitely *doesn't* "know his business", and is just wasting 
>>>>>>>>> your money. 6 monthly intervals is short term for an average 
>>>>>>>>> mineral oil, and for a synthetic in an everyday driver it's 
>>>>>>>>> ludicrous.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only thing your mechanic seems to know here is how to 
>>>>>>>>> charge you for unnecessary oil changes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **My mechanic has ever steered me wrong. Several small jobs 
>>>>>>>> have been done for zero cost. When I removed the exhaust system 
>>>>>>>> from my Stagea (unseen speed hump, too fast), the replacement 
>>>>>>>> cost me $500.00. He subbed the job out to a local exhaust 
>>>>>>>> system specialist and charged me at cost (yes, I saw the 
>>>>>>>> original invoice).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I trust my mechanic. In fact, when the Levorg finished it's 5 
>>>>>>>> year warranty period, he suggested that 12 monthly oil changes 
>>>>>>>> would be fine. Due to the high kms on the Stagea and the fact 
>>>>>>>> that it is a turbo engine and does mostly urban running, he 
>>>>>>>> suggested that I maintain 6 monthly oil changes in that car.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably why the engine oil looks so clean.
>>>>>>> Having clean oil is good for any engine but unless there is 
>>>>>>> something wrong with it then its not necessary to change it 
>>>>>>> every 6mths.
>>>>>>> My 2002 Benz has done 221k km, it does a mixture of city and hwy 
>>>>>>> driving and I do approx 8k km PA, it gets an annual service and 
>>>>>>> it runs perfectly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> where I was living as a child, one of the neighbours never 
>>>>>> changed the engine oil in his car. he believed oil changes were a 
>>>>>> croc. he just kept topping up. his holden had done over 200K
>>>>>
>>>>> Between you and me, I suspect he lied to you. Or the car was a freak!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yeah, probably BS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In those days, a Holden would have been lucky to see 70k miles 
>>>>> without an engine rebuild. Best I ever saw was 100k miles. The 
>>>>> engines needed frequent valve regrinds, constant tappet adjustment 
>>>>> and, when in need of rings, usually required a rebore because the 
>>>>> cylinders ended up like buckets because of cold start fuel wash. 
>>>>> The worn bores ended up taking out the rings and ring grooves. 
>>>>> IOW, it was exchange engine time. We used to do exchange short 
>>>>> blocks initially but, after a time, economics dictated a move to 
>>>>> long motor exchange.
>>>>>
>>>>> Back in the day, oil consumption was *normal*, typically a pint 
>>>>> every thousand miles. So, if you were topping up that amount, you 
>>>>> were automatically replenishing the additives pack. Engines of 
>>>>> that era typically did not have an oil filter nor did they have an 
>>>>> effective crankcase ventilation system when driven at urban 
>>>>> speeds. That meant that, even though you were topping off the oil, 
>>>>> the particulates and acids built up in the oil thus maintaining 
>>>>> the *oil level*. So, while you were topping off the half pint, the 
>>>>> engine was replacing a percentage of the oil in the sump with 
>>>>> contaminants and carbon. Saw many people who couldn't understand 
>>>>> why their car used more oil on a trip than around town. What they 
>>>>> didn't realise was they were getting the engine hot enough to 
>>>>> *burn off* the liquid contaminants and particulate matter. Do a 
>>>>> 100 mile trip on the highway and that burn off was enough to show 
>>>>> up on the dipstick in only 100 miles. But that didn't account for 
>>>>> the abrasive particulate matter in the oil. No filter, remember? 
>>>>> Even the aftermarket filters for old Holdens were of the bypass 
>>>>> type. So, any abrasive particles just kept on running round and 
>>>>> round the oil galleries and through the bearings chewing them up. 
>>>>> If you didn't change the oil regularly on those engines, you could 
>>>>> almost guarantee you were going to be running a big end bearing 
>>>>> sooner or later - and it was usually sooner.
>>>>>
>>>>> The *only* grey motor Holden of that era I ever saw that got past 
>>>>> 100k miles was owned by a family who lived on a farm in the hills 
>>>>> around town. That car, whenever it was started, faced a *minimum* 
>>>>> 44km round trip *every single time*. Cold starts and short trips 
>>>>> weren't a factor in that car's life. What's more, the road it 
>>>>> traversed was gravel and the roughest in the state of Tasmania. 
>>>>> When the car was *retired*, the engine was still in fine fettle 
>>>>> and, as far as I was aware, untouched except for servicing and 
>>>>> maintenance - tappet adjustment for instance. The suspension 
>>>>> however, it was totally stuffed on that car. In fact it was the 
>>>>> suspension that saw the end of that car - I found the front 
>>>>> crossmember cracking in half at service time and had to condemn it 
>>>>> - the car being so generally decrepit that it wasn't worth fixing.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have to remember, I did my 5 year apprenticeship in a Holden 
>>>>> Dealership and grey motor Holdens were my bread and butter. The 
>>>>> red motor Holdens were only a few years old at the time and were a 
>>>>> world apart from the greys in terms of reliability and longevity.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the Holden's around town, an FB, also didn't get its oil 
>>>>> changes, the owner figuring the money the oil cost was better 
>>>>> served for buying alcohol. Yes, he was an alcoholic and, for a 
>>>>> time I worked with him since he was also a mechanic. One day he 
>>>>> decided to change the oil in his car since he hadn't done it for 
>>>>> quite some time, possibly years, knowing him. Took the drain plug 
>>>>> out and a pint or so of oil came out. He found that odd since the 
>>>>> oil level was up to the mark on the dipstick. A poke around with a 
>>>>> wire up the drain plug yielded no more joy, better investigate so 
>>>>> off came the sump. The only place the oil hadn't congealed into a 
>>>>> solid mass was the area around the oil pickup. That would have 
>>>>> been where the *liquid oil* was located. If you ever wanted a good 
>>>>> reason to change oil, that car was it. He had to hack the sludge 
>>>>> buildup out of the sump, it was solid. You need to remember, 
>>>>> engines used to sludge up a lot in those days. That was why you 
>>>>> changed the oil, to prevent the sludge. This FB was an extreme 
>>>>> case. I suspect the only reason the engine bearings survived was 
>>>>> because the car was lucky to get above 35mph. It never saw the 
>>>>> town limits much less the highway. Had it ever done so, all the 
>>>>> oil, all 1 pint of it, would have been pumped around the engine 
>>>>> and had no time to return to the sump before the pump found itself 
>>>>> sucking on air - and air doesn't lube engine bearings very well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note: in the above I used mostly miles to indicate distance 
>>>>> because that's what all the cars showed on their odometers in 
>>>>> those days.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the light of my experience with old Holdens, I very much doubt 
>>>>> a grey motor would reach 100k, much less 200k, with no oil 
>>>>> changes. FFS, with careful maintenance they were struggling to 
>>>>> reach 100k before a rebuild was needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, don't adopt that philosophy with modern cars, you'll be lucky 
>>>>> to get to 100k these days - especially if your engine is equipped 
>>>>> with such niceties as hydraulic cam phasers. As a matter of fact, 
>>>>> if you rode around on Honda OHC motor cycles back in the 70s, and 
>>>>> neglected the oil changes, you chopped out the cam bearings in 
>>>>> short order. I use the change the oil in mine regularly.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll be taking good care of the ZS. doesn't seem to run as well 
>>>> since I had it serviced tho. unless it's just my imagination.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Doesn't run as well in what way?
>>
>>
>> it just seems less smooth engine wise. like more hesitant (less 
>> responsive) when pressing the accelerator faster down. I'm usually 
>> very gentle with the throttle and accelerate slowly/smoothly
>>
>>
>>> Sometimes dealerships perform in-service reworks like apply firmware 
>>> updates that may change how your car behaves and can make it feel 
>>> different.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> as I understand it, apart from firmware updates, dealership engine 
>> tuning is a thing of the past, as the car's computer tunes the engine
>>
>
> Engine tuning is still here, it's just done differently, apart from 
> spark plugs, they still need changing the same.
>
> What you will find is that they will have updated the firmware and the 
> EMS has lost all its *learning*. When that happens, the EMS drops back 
> to its *default* ex-factory settings. To get the EMS to relearn all 
> the settings requires you to drive 50, 100 km, maybe more and allow 
> the car to relearn all your habits. Be patient, the process is gradual 
> and you may barely notice it.
>

ahh, ok thanks.

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                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:08 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 22:26 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 23:49 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-24 12:52 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-21 09:32 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-21 10:29 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-20 20:42 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-20 20:50 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-20 22:54 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-20 23:03 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-20 23:42 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 06:48 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-23 20:34 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-20 16:06 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-20 17:01 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-20 18:21 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-20 20:51 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-20 22:13 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-20 22:51 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-21 12:30 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-21 13:24 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-21 13:32 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-21 14:07 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-21 15:42 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-21 17:56 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-21 18:36 +1100
      Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-18 21:29 +1100
        Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-18 22:15 +1100
          Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-18 12:53 +0000
          Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-19 00:05 +1100
        Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-19 08:21 +1100
          Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-19 10:07 +1100
            Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-18 23:18 +0000
      Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2024-12-19 07:54 +0800
        Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-19 15:20 +1100
          Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-19 15:59 +1100
            Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-19 16:57 +1100
            Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-23 19:38 +0800
              Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-24 08:10 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-24 10:52 +1100
          Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-19 16:30 +1100
          Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-19 16:39 +1100
          Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-19 20:30 +1100
          Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 07:39 +1000
            Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-20 08:52 +1100
              Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 08:50 +1000
              Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-20 10:35 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-20 13:42 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-23 19:54 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 23:48 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-23 21:07 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-24 08:17 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-24 11:06 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-24 08:52 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-24 13:11 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-24 15:06 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-24 16:32 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-24 16:26 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-25 19:08 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-25 19:12 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 22:20 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-27 07:07 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-27 09:40 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-27 10:31 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-25 22:54 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-27 07:07 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-27 09:27 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-27 12:36 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-27 10:39 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-27 07:51 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-27 12:40 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-29 11:00 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-29 11:14 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-29 15:23 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-27 20:32 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-27 20:55 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-27 21:04 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-27 21:30 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-27 21:23 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-28 14:36 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-28 14:45 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-27 21:20 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-28 14:32 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-28 14:47 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-28 08:19 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-28 09:26 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-28 10:13 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-28 10:21 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-28 10:56 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-28 11:59 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-28 12:11 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-28 01:48 +0000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Argon <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 13:30 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-28 14:50 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-28 14:52 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-28 11:54 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-28 15:13 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-28 16:05 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-28 17:10 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-28 19:54 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-28 20:25 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-28 16:25 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-28 16:28 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-28 17:12 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-28 20:01 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-28 20:26 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-29 09:08 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-29 09:52 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-29 19:00 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-29 20:03 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-29 21:29 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-29 22:08 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-29 22:15 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations DaveW <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 06:58 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 13:55 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-30 17:10 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-30 21:16 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-28 19:28 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-29 05:58 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-29 09:21 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-29 09:40 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-29 09:40 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-29 12:17 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 12:04 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-29 13:36 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 13:28 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-29 19:20 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-30 11:50 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 14:33 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-30 17:48 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 18:09 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-31 10:16 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-31 12:19 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-29 10:57 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-29 09:38 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-29 10:48 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-29 11:03 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-29 11:11 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-29 12:08 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-29 16:04 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-29 16:11 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Kelvin <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 11:19 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-29 15:15 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-29 19:26 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-29 20:50 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-29 21:13 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-29 21:21 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-30 09:48 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 13:48 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-30 14:12 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 14:36 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 14:56 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 15:46 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:03 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 16:04 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 16:20 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-30 17:15 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-30 10:15 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 11:33 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 01:38 +0000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-30 12:41 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-28 14:43 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-28 11:59 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-28 16:01 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-28 16:53 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-28 17:24 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-28 16:29 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-28 19:46 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-28 19:56 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-28 20:23 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-29 08:55 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-29 09:02 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-29 10:07 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-29 10:29 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-29 10:56 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-29 12:24 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-29 15:20 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-29 16:11 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-29 16:44 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-29 18:48 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-29 20:01 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-29 12:23 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-29 18:46 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-29 20:00 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-30 06:16 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 08:06 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-30 10:25 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 10:59 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-30 09:50 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-30 14:10 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-30 17:17 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 13:52 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-30 09:19 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-30 10:24 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 11:05 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 01:13 +0000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-30 11:46 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-30 09:52 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 13:38 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-30 14:12 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-30 13:47 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-30 15:23 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 15:47 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-30 21:04 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 21:21 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 22:25 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-31 00:27 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-31 01:22 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-31 09:56 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-31 10:30 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-31 10:59 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-31 11:17 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 10:47 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-31 09:14 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-31 10:31 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-30 20:52 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-31 00:28 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-30 18:02 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-30 20:51 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 22:26 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 22:40 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 22:34 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-31 09:23 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-31 12:17 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-30 17:25 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-30 20:56 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-30 19:54 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-30 21:58 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-31 00:37 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 08:25 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-31 00:31 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-31 11:42 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2025-01-01 09:20 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2025-01-01 19:26 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2025-01-02 08:35 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2025-01-02 08:31 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 08:04 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 14:58 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 16:11 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-30 18:26 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:10 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-30 17:29 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-30 20:59 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-30 19:59 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-31 11:46 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2025-01-01 09:27 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2025-01-01 20:02 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 11:58 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2025-01-02 23:11 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations jonz <Nothere@overthere.com> - 2025-01-03 09:54 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2025-01-03 13:00 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 13:49 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-30 14:13 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 14:38 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 13:59 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 14:33 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2025-01-02 08:54 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2025-01-02 13:12 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-30 17:54 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 18:14 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-30 21:10 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 21:20 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-30 21:08 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 22:18 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 22:37 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-31 00:41 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-31 01:21 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-31 09:41 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-31 09:30 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-31 11:15 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-31 11:52 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-31 12:02 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-31 16:07 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-31 16:13 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 08:43 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 22:23 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 22:22 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-30 17:45 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-30 14:04 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 14:07 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-30 14:19 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 14:59 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-30 11:34 +1000
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-30 12:42 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-30 13:42 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 14:06 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 14:25 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations jonz <Nothere@overthere.com> - 2024-12-30 19:10 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 14:00 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-30 14:02 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-30 14:08 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-30 14:35 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-30 20:02 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-28 20:01 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-28 15:58 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-28 17:24 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-29 09:15 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-29 16:01 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-29 16:07 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-29 16:18 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-29 15:17 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-29 18:39 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-29 18:46 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-29 22:11 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-30 09:53 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-28 11:51 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-28 14:58 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-28 12:49 +0800
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-28 17:10 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-28 16:00 +1100
                Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-28 17:11 +1100
              Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-20 11:32 +1100
  Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-18 17:32 +1100
  Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 16:43 +1000
    Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2024-12-19 07:57 +0800
      Re: Honda and Nissan set to start merger negotiations Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:37 +1000

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