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Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released

From thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released
Date 2014-08-21 15:11 +0000
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 00:20:12 -0700, Roedy Green wrote:

> I think in future all apps, including desktop apps, should be signed.

And who do you propose will pay the annual C-note to get/renew the 
certificates for all of the formerly-free apps?

You've just suggested raising the barrier to entry to create and 
distribute desktop Java apps from "nothing but time" to "$9/month/app for 
as long as you support each app". And you'd make unsupported apps stop 
working when a developer stops supporting them instead of simply no 
longer having the developer's technical assistance or new updates 
available. The practical effect would be for those apps to disappear 
behind paywalls as the developer needs to cover the cost of certificate 
renewals somehow, as well as to create planned obsolescence. All open 
source desktop Java software would evaporate, and a mob would come for 
you with torches and pitchforks.

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JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-08-19 17:32 -0700
  Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-08-19 18:47 -0700
    Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Wayne <nospam@all.invalid> - 2014-08-19 23:24 -0400
      Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-08-19 20:54 -0700
        Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Wayne <nospam@all.invalid> - 2014-08-20 09:24 -0400
      Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-08-21 00:20 -0700
        Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released thinbluernime <thinbluernime3@gmail.com> - 2014-08-21 15:11 +0000
        Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-22 16:10 -0400
          Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-08-23 02:18 +0100
            Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-22 21:32 -0400
        Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-22 16:10 -0400
      Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-08-21 00:20 -0700
        Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Wayne <nospam@all.invalid> - 2014-08-21 23:54 -0400
    Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2014-08-21 10:18 +0200
      Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Wayne <nospam@all.invalid> - 2014-08-21 05:37 -0400
        Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2014-08-21 11:43 +0200
      Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-22 16:12 -0400
  Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-08-20 00:32 -0700
    Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-20 09:45 -0400
      Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-08-20 08:22 -0700
      Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-08-20 08:28 -0700
        Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-08-20 13:20 -0400
        Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-08-21 01:53 +0200
          Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2014-08-21 08:42 -0700
      Re: JDK 1.8.0_20 and JDK 1.7.0_67 released Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-08-20 09:39 -0700

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