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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Newsgroups | aus.cars, aus.computers, aus.legal |
| Subject | Re: The real cost of net zero |
| Date | 2024-12-26 13:34 +1100 |
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On 26/12/2024 12:41 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 18:40:38 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 24/12/2024 3:51 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 23/12/2024 1:57 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann,
>>>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who
>>>>>>>>> brought a King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're
>>>>>>>>> following that example. deal with the facts. it's not about not
>>>>>>>>> reducing carbon emissions, but how it's done, and setting
>>>>>>>>> realistic targets.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're doing it again here felix. Don't bleat about 'shooting
>>>>>>>> the messenger' when you're adjudging the message to be "fact".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so tell me what was said that was not 'fact'? but of course you
>>>>>>> won't since you didn't listen/watch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I actually did watch a fair bit of it felix (an hour+ is a big
>>>>>> ask), but couldn't see the point of continuing to listen to a
>>>>>> succession of self-interested Old Power talking heads. Especially
>>>>>> when they were all reading from the same script, "Coal power works
>>>>>> when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine" they
>>>>>> chanted. Whoopee. Batteries specifics anyone? Nope. Up to the
>>>>>> 25min mark, the best that the OPs could do to diss the battery
>>>>>> storage of NP was chorus that the cost of battery storage was
>>>>>> "huge". Adjectives don't cut it as a decisive argument. Neither
>>>>>> does interviewing one Canberra pensioner complaining about the
>>>>>> cost of her electricity bill a decent sample size make. They were,
>>>>>> like Trump, big on fear and opinion, but relatively light on
>>>>>> (haha) facts and stats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I didn't see a single pro-New Power advocate.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't watch the doco. I just put that there for reference.
>>>>
>>>> If you cite a doco *for reference*, it behooves you to at least know
>>>> and understand the content of said doco.
>>> I cited it because it was the subject of the interview. I didn't
>>> make reference to it
>>
>> I cite only documents which I have read/watched and find are in
>> concurrence with my line of reasoning.
>>
>> Next you'll be citing War & Peace when discussing the war in Ukraine.
>>
>> BTW, if you want to understand the war in Ukraine, I recommend this book.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com.au/Accidental-Superpower-Generation-American-
>> Preeminence/dp/1455583685/
>
> That's torrentable
Quite possibly but I'll leave that format to you, I prefer the actual
*book* in my hands.
>
> That's been updated
Yes, I know, I have both the original and the updated versions as well
as his three other books. My future reading list is replete with those
plus similar geopolitics titles from Tim Marshall, Jared Diamond and
George Friedman.
> https://www.amazon.com.au/Accidental-Superpower-Generation-American-
> Preeminence-ebook/dp/B00OL1GIT6
>
>> It's a hard read, a veritable slog, geopolitics is like that, but it
>> provides the only reasonable explanation for the Ukraine Conflict and
>> more. In fact the author predicted in 2014 that Russia would invade
>> Ukraine by 2022 at the very latest. History proved him correct and he
>> has produced a followup book as a recap of past events discussed in
>> the first book.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but if you had taken the trouble to know what you're talking
>>>>>>> about, you would know that it's not about denying climate change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, it is. That plus "huge" dollop of self-interest on top.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fact is felix that burning fossil fuels has been a major
>>>>>> contributor to creating an over-heating and struggling planet. It
>>>>>> seems a no- brainer to
>>>>>> ditch it and use sources that are both infinite and free, *even*
>>>>>> if it does cost more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> we know that. but the fact is we could have kept our coal power
>>>>> plants until we had viable power sources and there would have been
>>>>> NO effect on global warming considering the minuscule effect our
>>>>> total emissions do have.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, the coal fired plants are well past their use by dates.
>>> well China is happy to build two every week, and burn our brown coal
>>> in them
>>>
>>>> Keeping them going will cost more than building, say, gas peaking
>>>> plants.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>> Again suggesting that you read something that's not Murdoch. It's
>>>>>> not illegal you know. Yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> truth is truth and facts are facts irrespective of the source.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 21:43 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 00:09 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:27 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:24 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 09:15 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:53 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:18 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-25 22:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 04:53 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-26 20:52 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-27 04:44 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-23 17:28 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 17:33 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-23 18:52 +0800
Re: The real cost of net zero SAG <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 05:23 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:05 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 18:37 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:06 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:41 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 09:27 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 06:03 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 13:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 14:16 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 15:18 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 16:31 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 17:40 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 18:58 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-24 16:37 +0800
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 20:07 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:32 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:34 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-24 17:08 +0800
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:19 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-12-24 17:03 +0800
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 22:56 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 23:12 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:20 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:28 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:02 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:17 +1100
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