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Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS :(

From FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS :(
Date 2014-08-01 16:33 -0400
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On 2014-08-01 19:33:28 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:

> On 2014-08-01, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-08-01 18:17:09 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>> 
>>> On 2014-08-01, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2014-08-01 15:53:47 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>>>>> On 2014-08-01, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nope. It could imply "Oh noes, this isn't like what I used in 1992, it must
>>>>>> be terrible."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yup. I suspect that's closer to home in this case.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Frankly, there are soooo many better options that resurrecting the Apple
>>>>>> menu that I am really surprised anyone is still putting forth effort on
>>>>>> resurrecting a bit of System 7.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some folks seem to be hopelessly and forever stuck in the past,
>>>>> resisting *any* changes, good or bad.
>>>> 
>>>> ... he says to a guy running the Yosemite beta on a fiber optic
>>>> network... and who uses 10.9.4 on a daily basis.
>>> 
>>> No, I said it to a guy who refuses to let go of the ancient Apple
>>> menu paradigm when other (some better) options exist. ; ) Nice try,
>>> though.
>> 
>> That's rich, coming from you.  You've come to the conclusion that I'm
>> "hopelessly and forever stuck in the past resisting *any* changes, good
>> or bad" based on ONE program I use
> 
> I said "some people". Whether you fit that definition or not at that
> time was unknown. And it was more about you complaining about Apple making
> the change while dismissing or refusing to admit there are other ways to
> do the same things. Had you simply said, "yes, I see there are other
> ways, but still prefer this one" and left it at that, I doubt we'd be
> having this discussion to begin with.
> 
>> - and, yet, you completely discount
>> the other hundreds of ways I'm standing, not at the leading edge of
>> technology, but at the BLEEDING edge of technology.
> 
> Some people doesn't mean "only you". As you have pointed out in later
> posts, it's possible to be resistant to some changes but not others.
> Naturally, all humans are guilty of this, including me - and you.
> 
>> I've seen you do this to other people, over the years, bur I always
>> figured they deserved it.  I know better, now.
> 
> And now you're doing it to me in this very post. One good deed deserves
> another?  : )
> 
>> Yeah, you've sure got a keen grasp of your own close-minded view of the
>> world.  If it helps you feel superior to make pompous pronouncements
>> based on thin air, fine.  Whatever lets you sleep at night.
> 
> My statement, no matter how you dislike it, is true: Some people *do*
> seem to be hopelessly and forever stuck in the past, resisting change.
> You have made it clear you aren't one of them, and that's a good thing.
> 
>> But let's see if you can recognize someone who's REALLY "hopelessly
>> stuck in the past", OK?
>> 
>> On 2014-03-05 23:59:25 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>> 
>>> I myself have Macs that will never be upgraded past 10.6.
>>> I even have Macs in my possession that will never run anything past
>>> classic Mac OS 6 or 7.
> 
> The key difference is I am not complaining that things have changed,
> while you are. ; )
> 
> While I do have newer hardware that does run the latest and greatest,
> I'm not about to throw perfectly useful machines away strictly because
> they can't run the latest OS - especially when they are providing useful
> services to me.
> 
>> Or let's take a look at this gem...
>> 
>> On 2014-03-08 20:38:18 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>> 
>>> I have disk images for classic Mac OS System 1 through 9 and Mac OS X
>>> 10.0 through 10.9 (with various minor point release versions for each).
> 
> Not sure what you think is wrong with this.
> 
>> I'll bet you don't have any mirrors in you house, either...
> 
> Some people probably don't. I do. Do you? Not sure what this has to do
> with anything.
> 
>> You're not clinging to "old" technology... you're clinging to decrepit
>> technology.  I have a special sig, just for you...
> 
> You sure get bent out of shape easily.

I explained all this in detail. I wasn't "complaining" about anything.  
I thought the new system font was a little harder to read than the old 
one.  That's "complaining"?  No, that's an observation.  You really 
think it's just my poor, old eyes?  It's not just ME... and it's NOT 
unjustified.

I deal closely with fonts every day.  I keep pointing that out because 
you should know that I have a better than average acquaintance with the 
subject. On certain subjects, I'm not just an idiot on Usenet.  None of 
us are... we all have our areas of expertise.  But, don't take my word 
for it... maybe you'll listen to an objective expert:

"It's definitely harder to read," Ina Saltz, a typography expert, 
professor and author of Typography Essentials: 100 Design Principles 
for Working With Type told The Huffington Post. "The light weight of 
Helvetica Neue is much thinner."

"So why is it so hard to read? Saltz said the problem is the stroke 
width, or the thickness of the lines that make up each individual 
letter. "If you look at that, it's much lighter," she said."

"Helvetica Neue doesn't have the legibility that Lucida Grande has, 
which is especially important for a font that will be used for big 
blocks of text, Saltz said. "Any good type designer will say that 
legibility is paramount," she added."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/05/mac-new-font_n_5451636.html

Now, I KNOW that Usenet is full of people who are full of shit, and 
will whine about the smallest thing - but that is not what I'm doing.  
When I say it's harder to read, it's not a simplistic spur of the 
moment value judgement made by someone who likes to shoot from the lip. 
 It's harder to read BECAUSE. IT'S. HARDER. TO. READ.  Measurably and 
demonstrably.

It is NOT my opinion... it's an undeniable FACT.

The dock... I wasn't complaining about the dock.  I wasn't even 
thinking of the dock.  I NEVER give the dock a second thought...

All I said was that Yosemite made the Apple logo in the upper left 
corner a few pixels smaller, and it made Classic Menu render it's 
larger apple logo incorrectly.  I then also said that I had fixed the 
resource, and that it was a "minor annoyance".

After that, I found myself having to defend my choice of Classic Menu, 
like I was a felon on trial.  Instead of a civil discussion about a 
freaking MINOR change to the menubar, it became an attack on me as a 
Luddite.  You really think that's fair?  Attack, snipe, attack again... 
 disregard all the facts.

No wonder Usenet is dying.  If I wanted the abuse, I could go on Facebook...
-- 
Clones are people two.

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  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-07-26 12:34 -0500
    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-26 13:11 -0500
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-27 10:45 +1200
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-26 18:01 -0500
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              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-27 16:44 -0400
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-27 14:46 -0400
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-27 19:09 +0000
    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-27 10:40 +1200
  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-26 20:06 +0000
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      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-27 18:14 +0000
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        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-28 20:02 -0400
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              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 10:18 -0700
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                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 19:11 -0700
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                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 06:51 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-31 08:55 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 20:17 -0700
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                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-31 12:37 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-31 09:40 -0700
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                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 11:05 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 18:23 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 11:35 -0700
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                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-31 16:59 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-31 21:46 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-31 18:38 -0700
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                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 16:12 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-01 17:51 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 18:22 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-08-01 12:35 -0700
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              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 07:56 -0700
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                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-08-04 14:01 +0200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-04 11:32 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 19:09 -0700
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                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 22:11 -0700
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            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 08:05 -0700
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          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-29 13:39 +0000
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                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-30 13:37 -0700
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                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-30 22:05 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-30 23:16 +0100
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-31 02:09 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-30 17:56 -0700
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                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 06:56 -0700
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                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-02 20:17 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-08-02 23:03 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-08-03 17:14 +1000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-08-03 00:40 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 21:54 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-08-02 17:19 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-03 01:15 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-03 13:52 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-02 20:36 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-03 04:01 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-03 00:29 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-03 17:44 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-08-03 11:29 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-08-03 12:50 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-08-02 23:01 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-03 19:22 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-08-03 00:36 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-03 17:40 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 11:46 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-02 10:29 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 04:23 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 09:25 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 13:21 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 10:38 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 13:53 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 11:05 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-02 23:13 +0100
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 15:17 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 21:28 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-08-02 15:57 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 21:29 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-02 18:40 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 22:05 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-03 13:54 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 22:06 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-02 20:37 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-02 22:10 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-02 13:58 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 14:04 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-02 14:20 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-02 21:31 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-02 22:10 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 11:06 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-02 23:15 +0100
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-02 15:21 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-02 23:32 +0100
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-03 10:45 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 11:43 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 19:21 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 01:38 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:32 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-31 16:46 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-31 13:17 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-31 20:28 +0100
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-31 16:35 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 02:34 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-01 19:01 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 14:09 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 11:10 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-01 14:12 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-31 21:53 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-08-01 12:18 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 01:31 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 14:13 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 11:14 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 15:21 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 11:48 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 15:42 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-07-30 22:39 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 15:57 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-01 15:45 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 02:43 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 02:48 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-01 19:06 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 01:41 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:17 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 11:31 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-01 15:58 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-08-01 11:50 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:16 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 11:24 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 15:41 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:50 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-01 13:29 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 18:06 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 13:34 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 18:48 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 13:56 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 22:22 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-08-02 01:44 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 20:58 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-02 03:14 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-02 07:13 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-02 03:11 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 00:56 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-02 03:07 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 04:02 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 13:32 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 01:01 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 13:30 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-02 12:41 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-08-01 19:46 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-31 01:44 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 06:36 -0700
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 07:59 -0700
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-29 11:21 -0400
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-29 10:58 -0500
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 15:06 +0000
  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-07-26 13:30 -0700
    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-07-26 21:11 +0000
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-26 17:28 -0400
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-07-26 15:11 -0700
        Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2014-07-27 07:28 -0500
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-27 07:54 -0700
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-27 10:01 -0500
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-27 09:31 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-07-27 12:16 -0500
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 09:29 +1200
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-27 14:53 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-27 15:34 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 13:29 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-27 22:00 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 18:20 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-27 22:04 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-27 22:49 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-27 23:07 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 18:23 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-27 23:34 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 18:58 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-28 08:39 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-28 09:45 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-29 09:15 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-28 19:51 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2014-07-29 06:35 -0500
              Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-07-27 18:32 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-27 20:36 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-07-27 23:44 -0500
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-28 09:03 +0200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-28 13:32 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-07-27 23:14 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-28 21:32 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-28 19:51 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 14:53 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-29 08:44 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-29 18:00 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-07-29 11:16 -0700
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( billy@MIX.COM - 2014-07-28 21:22 +0000
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-29 09:36 -0400
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-30 08:47 +1200
                Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-07-29 17:23 -0400
          Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-27 13:50 -0400
            Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-07-28 12:58 +0200
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-26 22:53 -0400
  Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-26 20:25 -0700
    Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-27 17:00 +1200
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-07-26 22:57 -0700
      Re: Yosemite or how to make OSX look like iOS  :( George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-07-27 13:27 -0500
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