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| From | Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: deep copy or shallow copy? |
| Date | 2014-07-28 12:52 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On 7/28/2014 11:24 AM, Stuart wrote:
> On 7/26/2014, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>> »The difference between classes and structs is methods.«
>>>
>>> Does not sound like English to me, possibly because the
>>> singular »is« does not align well with the plural »methods«.
>>> I can't make sense of it. But I am not a native reader of
>>> English.
>
> On 07/27/14, Victor Bazarov wrote:
>> If you care to learn, I'd venture to explain. "The difference is
>> methods" is a contracted sentence in which "the presence of" is omitted
>> before "methods", which in complete form would be "the difference is the
>> presence of methods" (feel free to replace "presence" with "existence"
>> or "ability to have" or some other synonym).
>
> [snip]
>
> I think I know where the confusion comes from. In German you say:
> "Es sind immer 2, die sich streiten." ("It takes two to have an argument").
>
> If you translate that one by one, you would get:
> It are always two who have an argument.
So, translating literally is rarely a good idea. ;-)
I don't know German enough, still I think the usual way to translate
such an expression would be "There is/are ..."
Back to the expression that caused the confusion, the 'is' relates to
"The difference", not to "methods", and "the difference" is singular, so
I am not totally convinced that you caught the actual cause of the
[possible] mistake.
> Note that in English the pronoun "it" can never be used in plural form,
> so it is always "is" and never "are":
> A: Who is it?
> B: It is only us!
More proper, "It is only we!"
> Regards,
> Stuart (also a non-native speaker)
V
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