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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.privacy.anon-server, alt.os.linux, comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
| Subject | Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break |
| Date | 2018-10-10 19:17 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <lpo19f-k87.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
| References | (4 earlier) <g25efmF9d2aU1@mid.individual.net> <ht819f-09q.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <ppkurn$sas$1@dont-email.me> <cid19f-b3u.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <ppl63b$8be$1@dont-email.me> |
Cross-posted to 4 groups.
On 10/10/2018 17.32, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > On 10/10/18 7:05 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 10/10/2018 15.28, Mayayana wrote: >>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote >>> >>> | > If you manage to miss this for a such long time, you don't really >>> care >>> | > about anything, you just have a certificate as everyone else has >>> it or >>> | > there is a regulation that mandates you to have one without really >>> | > knowing why. IMHO it's the same as not caring. >>> | >>> | No, I do not agree. >>> | >>> >>> If you bought the certificate directly then why >>> wouldn't you have looked into that? Personally I >>> care about privacy but only regard https as a >>> nice extra. My webhost handles that and I don't >>> know where they're getting the certificate. But >>> if you buy it yourself you should know what you're >>> buying. And who doesn't know to avoid Symantec? >> >> I don't. >> >>> They've got a shady history going all the way back >>> to the 90s. >> >> News to me. O:-) >> >> I used PCtools back then and it was a wonderful tool. I think I also >> used an antivirus from them at some point. >> >> Later on I switched to Linux, so most Windows software companies are >> irrelevant to me. >> >> >>> A similar example would be Wordpress denizens. >>> They use Wordpress for hosting because they don't >>> know what they're doing. Then they use script >>> gadgets that WP provides. Then they don't update >>> them because they don't know it matters, so WP >>> ends up being a slum of risky websites. >>> Should they know what they're doing? Of course. >>> Though WP is partially to blame. If they're going to >>> enable people with no knowledge to create websites >>> then they should also be handling things like updating >>> gadget code when fixes are written. >> >> Why should they know? If I'm a garage owner and they talk me into paying >> for a web site to announce my garage, it is very possible that I know >> nothing about computers beyond reading my email. >> >> I know people that own Windows computers with updates disabled for two >> or more years. Possibly the person that installed Windows disabled the >> updates because otherwise they would get phone calls everyday, LOL. >> >> So yes, what google or firefox do blocking those web sites with those >> certificates is the correct thing to do. >> >>> But I think in a lot of cases websites are being >>> created mainly by graphic artists who are not >>> tech-educated. They've just come up with tools >>> to "get around that problem". With all the WYSIWYG >>> tools available, people just don't need to know what >>> they're doing. They're like microwave chefs. >> >> Exactly. > > I dunno what you mean by a microwave chef? > Maybe people who buy prepared food and warm it up > in a microwave? > > You can do a lot more than that with a microwave > to produce delicious and edible food. Just as some artists > with a little knowledge can produce perfectly functional > web sites but don't blame them for not being administrators > of the ISP which should keep the certification up-to-date. > > There are different areas of knowledge and a person > who knows art may not know much about computers and person > who know computers may not know much about art or design. > That is clearly evident from many otherwise interesting > and informative sites which are painful to view. Yes, entirely possible. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break anon <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-10-09 08:41 -0500
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-09 15:50 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break anon <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-10-09 11:35 -0500
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 19:37 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-09 21:00 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2018-10-10 00:28 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-10 02:01 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2018-10-09 19:54 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break elvis-85650@notatla.org.uk - 2018-10-09 21:53 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-10-09 14:40 -0600
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-09 23:17 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-10-09 16:18 -0600
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-10 06:45 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 14:46 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 09:28 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 16:05 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 10:26 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 19:23 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-10-10 08:32 -0700
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 19:17 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 13:52 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-10 18:15 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 15:01 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-10 19:49 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-10 18:02 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 19:26 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-10 18:11 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-10 20:12 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 22:42 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2018-10-10 16:22 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 22:46 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-10 21:14 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2018-10-11 15:40 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break GlowingBlueMist <GlowingBlueMist@blackhole.io> - 2018-10-11 15:08 -0500
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-10-12 00:00 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-11 20:56 +0000
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 08:55 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 16:10 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 10:31 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 22:49 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-11 07:32 +0100
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-10-10 08:45 -0600
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-10 14:06 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-10-10 13:44 -0600
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-11 07:30 +0100
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-11 09:24 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 19:02 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-11 14:12 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-12 01:01 +0200
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Chuck Rhode <CRhode@LacusVeris.com> - 2018-10-12 20:30 -0500
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-12 22:05 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Chuck Rhode <CRhode@LacusVeris.com> - 2018-10-13 07:41 -0500
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2018-10-13 09:59 -0400
Re: With Chrome 70, hundreds of popular websites are about to break Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-10-15 19:14 +0000
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