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Re: Am I being too C++ like?

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Am I being too C++ like?
Date 2012-01-31 15:32 -0800
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Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
> Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 2012-01-21, Marco wrote:
>> ...
>>> keep using typedef ignore the naysayers
>>
>> If you really care, you should really provide some arguments,
>> like us "naysayers" did ...
>
> You mean arguments like "I don't like using typedefs"?  I didn't
> see any comments in this thread that amounted to anything more
> than a statement of personal preference or opinion, from those
> opposing the use of typedefs.  OTOH, there were several comments
> from people in favor of typedefs that gave reasons to prefer
> typedefs (in some cases) that are at least somewhat objective,
> rather than just stating a preference.

A typedef for a struct type creates a new name (such as "foo") for a
type that already has a perfectly valid name (such as "struct foo").
The "struct foo" name still has to be used inside the struct definition
if the type declares a pointer to the same type (unless you use a
forward declaration).  Using distinct identifiers for the tag and the
typedef name are different identifers, which is very common, can lead to
confusion.

Using a typedef for a struct type has few benefits.  The drawbacks are
not terribly serious if you do it right, but in my opinion the benefits
are minor enough that it's not worth doing.

Of course if you think that having a one-word name for a type is a
significant benefit, then you're going to disagree with this argument.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
    Will write code for food.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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Am I being too C++ like? nroberts <roberts.noah@gmail.com> - 2012-01-18 13:53 -0800
  Re: Am I being too C++ like? Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2012-01-18 18:50 -0500
    Re: Am I being too C++ like? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2012-01-19 04:13 +0000
    Re: Am I being too C++ like? ImpalerCore <jadill33@gmail.com> - 2012-01-19 09:09 -0800
  Re: Am I being too C++ like? Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2012-01-18 21:42 -0800
  Re: Am I being too C++ like? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-01-19 12:30 +0000
    Re: Am I being too C++ like? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-01-19 15:17 +0000
      Re: Am I being too C++ like? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-19 18:44 -0800
        Re: Am I being too C++ like? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-01-20 13:44 +0000
          Re: Am I being too C++ like? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-01-20 09:08 -0500
            Re: Am I being too C++ like? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-01-20 07:58 -0800
            Re: Am I being too C++ like? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-20 11:25 -0800
            Re: Am I being too C++ like? Kleuske <kleuske@nowhere.net> - 2012-01-20 20:17 +0000
              Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-21 09:23 +1300
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Kleuske <kleuske@nowhere.net> - 2012-01-20 22:00 +0000
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-01-20 16:28 -0600
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-21 11:43 +1300
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-01-20 18:02 -0500
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-20 16:12 -0800
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-01-21 00:13 +0000
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2012-01-20 17:37 -0800
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-20 22:25 -0800
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-01-21 16:07 +0000
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Bill Reid <hormelfree@gmail.com> - 2012-01-23 17:26 -0800
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-01-21 18:00 +0000
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-01-21 21:25 +0000
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-11 23:46 +0200
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-02-11 22:56 +0000
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-22 02:34 +0200
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-01-21 22:42 +0100
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-01-21 21:22 -0500
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-01-22 14:56 +0100
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-22 10:29 +1300
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Kleuske <kleuske@nowhere.net> - 2012-01-21 11:36 +0000
              Re: Am I being too C++ like? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-01-22 12:13 +0000
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Kleuske <kleuske@nowhere.net> - 2012-01-22 12:39 +0000
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-01-23 23:45 +0000
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Kleuske <kleuske@nowhere.net> - 2012-01-24 16:54 +0000
            Re: Am I being too C++ like? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-22 04:43 -0800
              Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-01-22 15:29 +0000
          Re: Am I being too C++ like? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-01-21 11:58 +0000
          Re: Am I being too C++ like? Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2012-01-21 21:32 +0000
  Re: Am I being too C++ like? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-01-19 04:23 -0800
    Re: Am I being too C++ like? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-19 14:39 +0000
    Re: Am I being too C++ like? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-22 05:14 -0800
      Re: Am I being too C++ like? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-01-23 23:42 +0000
  Re: Am I being too C++ like? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-19 14:51 +0000
  Re: Am I being too C++ like? jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-01-19 23:04 +0000
  Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-20 16:03 +1300
    Re: Am I being too C++ like? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-01-20 06:01 -0800
      Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-21 08:03 +1300
        Re: Am I being too C++ like? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-01-21 12:31 -0800
          Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-01-22 10:18 +1300
  Re: Am I being too C++ like? cri@tiac.net (Richard Harter) - 2012-01-20 05:22 +0000
  Re: Am I being too C++ like? Marco <prenom_nomus@yahoo.com> - 2012-01-21 07:29 -0800
    Re: Am I being too C++ like? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-01-24 12:13 +0000
      Re: Am I being too C++ like? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-01-31 14:32 -0800
        Re: Am I being too C++ like? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-31 15:32 -0800
          Re: Am I being too C++ like? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-31 19:46 -0800
          Re: Am I being too C++ like? Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2012-01-31 23:54 -0500
            Re: Am I being too C++ like? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-31 22:24 -0800
          Re: Am I being too C++ like? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-01-31 23:28 -0800
            Re: Am I being too C++ like? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-01 11:23 -0800
              Re: Am I being too C++ like? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-02-01 15:01 -0600
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-02-01 14:09 -0800
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-01 14:44 -0800
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 17:36 -0500
              Re: Am I being too C++ like? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-03-08 12:45 -0800
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-03-08 21:41 +0000
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-09 17:42 +1300
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-03-09 08:12 +0000
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-03-09 12:01 +0000
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-03-08 14:19 -0800
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-03-09 13:32 -0800
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-03-09 04:18 -0800
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2012-03-09 13:04 +0000
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-03-10 01:02 +0000
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2012-03-10 07:59 +0000
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-10 21:17 +1300
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-03-10 02:39 -0800
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-03-09 13:51 -0800
                Re: Am I being too C++ like? nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-03-10 02:54 -0800
            Re: Am I being too C++ like? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-10 12:27 +1300
          Re: Am I being too C++ like? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 07:41 +0000
            Re: Am I being too C++ like? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-01 11:24 -0800
        Re: Am I being too C++ like? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-02-01 21:55 +0000

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