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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: A final word on casting. |
| Date | 2018-12-24 15:34 -0800 |
| Organization | None to speak of |
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chanrasjid@gmail.com writes:
> On Tuesday, December 25, 2018 at 6:39:42 AM UTC+8, Barry Schwarz wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:03:25 -0800 (PST), chanrasjid@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
>> >As C allows for assignment of one type to a variable of a different
>> >type, a set of casting rules is needed. So this is C type casting.
>>
>> A set of conversion rules is needed.
>
> Yes, yours is the "philosophical" professional explanation of type
> casting. Introductory C textbooks does only as found in the internet;
> I did not read of such deeper explanations from introductory
> textbooks.
There's nothing "philosophical" about it, unless you consider the
distinction between a correct explanation and an incorrect explanation
to be a matter of philosophy.
If your introductory textbooks explain this incorrectly, you need
better textbooks. Any book that claims that "cast" is synonymous
with "conversion", or that there's such a thing as an "implicit
cast", was written by someone who doesn't know C well enough to be
writing books about it. Another strong indicator of a bad C book is
the use of "void main()" as if it were correct. (It's unfortunate
that there are a lot of such books out there.)
Can you cite the textbooks in question? We'd like to be able to steer
people away from them. We can also recommend better books for you.
The definitive description of the C language is the ISO C standard.
The latest freely available draft of the current standard is
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1570.pdf
It's not written for beginners, but I suggest you grab a copy and
see whether it's something you can refer to when you have questions.
(Conversions are discussed in section 6.3, cast operators in 6.5.3.)
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Will write code for food.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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A final word on casting. chanrasjid@gmail.com - 2018-12-23 03:02 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-12-23 12:11 +0000
Re: A final word on casting. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-12-23 13:08 +0000
Re: A final word on casting. Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-12-23 14:43 +0000
Re: A final word on casting. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-12-23 14:56 +0000
Re: A final word on casting. chanrasjid@gmail.com - 2018-12-23 07:08 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-12-23 15:55 +0000
Re: A final word on casting. Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-12-23 16:07 +0000
Re: A final word on casting. James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-12-23 08:21 -0800
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Re: A final word on casting. Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-12-28 09:34 -0800
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Re: A final word on casting. fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 03:29 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 03:45 -0800
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Re: A final word on casting. Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2018-12-23 21:33 +0100
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Re: A final word on casting. Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-12-23 20:03 +0000
Re: A final word on casting. "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 14:47 -0500
Re: A final word on casting. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-12-23 12:24 +0000
Re: A final word on casting. Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-12-23 07:28 -0500
Re: A final word on casting. Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-12-28 07:50 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-12-23 04:35 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-12-23 04:42 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-12-23 04:52 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-12-23 10:28 -0500
Re: A final word on casting. Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@dqel.com> - 2018-12-23 11:39 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2018-12-24 07:56 +0000
Re: A final word on casting. chanrasjid@gmail.com - 2018-12-24 14:03 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@dqel.com> - 2018-12-24 14:39 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. chanrasjid@gmail.com - 2018-12-24 14:50 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-12-24 15:34 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-12-24 15:23 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. chanrasjid@gmail.com - 2018-12-24 20:34 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-12-24 14:52 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. chanrasjid@gmail.com - 2018-12-24 20:25 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-12-24 17:52 -0500
Re: A final word on casting. luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 21:27 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 21:39 -0800
Re: A final word on casting. chanrasjid@gmail.com - 2018-12-24 22:36 -0800
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