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Re: [meta] how to attack a problem

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: [meta] how to attack a problem
Date 2015-07-06 16:19 -0700
Organization None to speak of
Message-ID <lntwtgc1r9.fsf@kst-u.example.com> (permalink)
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luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> writes:
> On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 9:09:38 AM UTC-5, mad...@acm.org wrote:
[...]
>> No hurry.  When you understand the problem, the solution will be
>> obvious.  If the solution is not obvious, you do not yet understand
>> the problem.
>> 
>> Randy.
>
> While the wording has attracted some disagreement, this is
> IMO a very valuable notion. Perhaps if we replace 'problem'
> with 'problem statement', that might lead us in a useful
> direction.
>
> The seeds of the answer are embedded in the question.

Really?  How do you respond to the several examples mentioned in this
thread where that just isn't true?  There are plenty of problems,
particularly in mathematics, where the problem statement is dead simple
but the solution is elusive (in some cases requiring decades or
centuries of work) or even provably impossible.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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[meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 06:15 -0700
  Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 06:26 -0700
  Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 06:34 -0700
    Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 06:35 -0700
      Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 06:51 -0700
  Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Aleksandar Kuktin <akuktin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 14:31 +0000
    Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 07:38 -0700
      Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Ed Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 14:50 -0700
        Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 15:16 -0700
          Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Ed Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 14:25 -0700
            Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 16:00 -0700
              Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 16:06 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 12:21 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem maddoxr@acm.org - 2015-07-01 07:09 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 11:01 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 11:20 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 11:33 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2015-07-02 08:35 +0200
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 07:18 +0200
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 23:48 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-02 07:33 -0500
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 09:44 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 09:47 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 09:58 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-02 12:33 -0500
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 10:37 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem maddoxr@acm.org - 2015-07-03 06:01 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-03 10:58 -0500
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 09:07 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 05:20 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 05:23 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-07-06 08:37 -0400
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem maddoxr@acm.org - 2015-07-06 07:01 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-07-06 10:31 -0400
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-06 07:48 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-07-06 19:07 +0000
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 12:32 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-06 10:06 -0500
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 08:49 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 14:03 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 14:52 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 14:05 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 01:27 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-06 16:19 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 18:17 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 18:58 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-07-06 21:09 -0600
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-07-07 15:14 -0500
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-07-07 14:50 -0700
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-07-07 21:20 -0600
                Re: [meta] how to attack a problem gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 04:01 -0700
      Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Aleksandar Kuktin <akuktin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 00:58 +0000
        Re: [meta] how to attack a problem fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 10:31 -0700
    Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Ed Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 14:41 -0700
      Re: [meta] how to attack a problem Aleksandar Kuktin <akuktin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 00:57 +0000
  Re: [meta] how to attack a problem luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 19:32 -0700

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