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Re: Naming convention for structs and types

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Naming convention for structs and types
Date 2017-01-12 17:43 -0800
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Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
[...]
> Using a typedef you could write C that will compile as C++ and still be
> valid C.

You can do the same without using a typedef.

    struct foo {
        int n;
    };
    struct foo obj;

is valid C and valid C++.  (It might not be considered *good* C++;
`foo obj;` probably would be but as you've pointed out that's not
valid C.)

On the other hand, writing code that compiles both as C and as C++ is
IMHO not useful as often as a lot of people think it is.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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Naming convention for structs and types "Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 11:48 -0800
  Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 11:58 -0800
    Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-01-13 01:35 +0000
      Re: Naming convention for structs and types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-01-12 17:43 -0800
      Re: Naming convention for structs and types Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-13 02:19 +0000
      Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 19:26 -0800
        Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 00:28 -0800
        Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-01-13 10:56 +0000
          Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 12:23 -0800
        Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-13 12:49 +0100
          Re: Naming convention for structs and types Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 05:03 -0800
            Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-13 16:00 +0100
              Re: Naming convention for structs and types Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 18:28 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-01-13 18:58 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-14 14:07 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-01-14 14:31 -0800
          Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 09:20 -0800
            Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-13 18:47 +0100
              Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 10:02 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-13 21:42 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 12:55 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-01-13 13:09 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-01-15 21:01 -0800
    Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-12 17:48 -0800
      Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 19:35 -0800
        Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-12 19:45 -0800
          Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 19:51 -0800
            Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-12 21:12 -0800
            Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-13 12:53 +0100
              Re: Naming convention for structs and types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-01-13 08:59 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-13 18:48 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-13 18:03 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-01-18 12:05 +0000
    Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-13 19:30 +1300
      Re: Naming convention for structs and types Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-13 13:00 +0000
        Re: Naming convention for structs and types Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-01-13 10:43 -0800
          Re: Naming convention for structs and types Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-13 18:52 +0000
            Re: Naming convention for structs and types Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-01-13 12:56 -0800
              Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-14 10:54 +1300
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-13 22:00 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-14 11:18 +1300
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-14 00:59 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-01-13 17:12 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-14 14:47 +1300
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-01-14 01:36 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-14 11:26 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-01-14 14:11 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Parity Error <kgf@quiscurat.net> - 2017-01-15 08:33 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-01-15 02:52 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Jean-Marc Bourguet <jm@bourguet.org> - 2017-01-15 14:48 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-01-18 12:07 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-14 14:40 +1300
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 11:28 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-14 11:48 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Jean-Marc Bourguet <jm@bourguet.org> - 2017-01-14 13:17 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-14 14:21 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 13:27 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-14 14:00 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 14:11 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 14:12 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-14 16:18 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-14 16:31 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 18:50 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-14 19:48 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-15 10:15 +1300
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-01-14 20:12 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-14 23:31 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-01-14 10:28 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 18:52 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-01-14 14:49 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-01-14 14:41 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-14 23:03 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Parity Error <kgf@quiscurat.net> - 2017-01-15 08:41 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-16 20:01 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-17 00:19 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-17 00:29 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-17 09:12 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-17 11:59 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-17 13:16 +0000
                OT: Bash tab completion (was: Naming convention for structs and types) Andreas Perstinger <andipersti@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 13:27 +0000
                Re: OT: Bash tab completion BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-17 13:59 +0000
                Re: OT: Bash tab completion David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-17 15:49 +0100
                Re: OT: Bash tab completion fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 07:06 -0800
                Re: OT: Bash tab completion fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 07:43 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-17 15:18 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-17 19:26 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-17 21:53 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 20:56 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-17 21:38 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 14:22 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-01-17 23:43 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-18 00:33 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-18 11:03 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-18 12:15 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-18 13:59 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-18 15:45 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-18 17:28 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-01-18 09:30 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-18 23:18 +1300
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-17 21:22 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-18 12:47 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 08:11 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-01-18 17:17 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 09:47 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 21:20 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-18 22:26 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-19 00:31 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-01-18 15:41 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-18 23:58 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-01-17 11:49 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-17 21:56 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-01-17 13:18 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-18 12:50 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-18 07:51 +1300
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-01-17 19:50 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-17 21:59 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-18 17:51 +1300
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-01-18 12:15 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-19 07:52 +1300
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-01-18 12:09 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 13:26 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-15 08:10 +1300
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-01-14 12:28 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-15 10:17 +1300
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-01-13 15:12 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-14 12:31 +1300
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2017-01-13 16:03 -0800
          Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-13 15:57 -0800
            Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-14 13:29 -0800
        Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-14 10:45 +1300
      Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 12:19 -0800
        Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-16 15:22 -0800
          Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-16 16:35 -0800
            Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-17 17:02 -0800
        Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-17 20:57 +1300
          Re: Naming convention for structs and types Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-17 08:47 +0000
            Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-18 08:03 +1300
          Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 07:04 -0800
            Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-18 08:01 +1300
              Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 11:47 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-17 22:16 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-17 15:44 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-18 17:59 +1300
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 04:42 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-19 07:57 +1300
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 11:22 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-18 13:36 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 05:07 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-18 16:09 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 07:36 -0800
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-18 17:32 +0100
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-18 17:55 +1300
            Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-19 22:28 -0800
              Re: Naming convention for structs and types Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-20 08:36 +0000
              Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-01-20 04:27 -0800
  Re: Naming convention for structs and types luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 12:01 -0800
    Re: Naming convention for structs and types Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-12 20:11 +0000
      Re: Naming convention for structs and types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-01-12 12:50 -0800
        Re: Naming convention for structs and types Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-12 21:02 +0000
          Re: Naming convention for structs and types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-01-12 13:26 -0800
            Re: Naming convention for structs and types Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-12 21:35 +0000
      Re: Naming convention for structs and types luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 16:37 -0800
      Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-13 12:57 +0100
        Re: Naming convention for structs and types Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 16:38 +0000
          Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-13 17:52 +0100
  Re: Naming convention for structs and types Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-12 20:07 +0000
  Re: Naming convention for structs and types Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 12:45 -0800
  Re: Naming convention for structs and types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-01-12 13:01 -0800
  Re: Naming convention for structs and types jadill33@gmail.com - 2017-01-12 13:57 -0800
  Re: Naming convention for structs and types John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 13:59 -0800
    Re: Naming convention for structs and types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-01-12 15:08 -0800
    Re: Naming convention for structs and types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-01-14 10:33 -0800
      Re: Naming convention for structs and types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-01-14 15:20 -0800
        Re: Naming convention for structs and types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-01-15 21:31 -0800
  Re: Naming convention for structs and types Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-13 19:43 +1300
    Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 01:00 -0800
      Re: Naming convention for structs and types James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-01-13 13:03 -0500
        Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 16:02 -0800
        Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-14 13:36 +0100
          Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 05:22 -0800
            Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-14 17:27 +0100
          Re: Naming convention for structs and types raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-01-18 21:05 +0000
            Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-19 09:48 +0100
              Re: Naming convention for structs and types James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-01-19 13:31 -0500
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-19 21:18 +0100
              Re: Naming convention for structs and types raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-01-22 17:10 +0000
                Re: Naming convention for structs and types David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-22 18:27 +0100
    Re: Naming convention for structs and types James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-01-13 12:49 -0500
      Re: Naming convention for structs and types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-01-13 09:55 -0800
  Re: Naming convention for structs and types "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 23:46 +0800

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