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Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs?

From "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs?
Date 2014-06-15 19:18 +0100
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on 15/06/2014 13:36:11, "Rod Pemberton" wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 18:19:21 -0400, Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Andrew's factorial example demonstrates why having a jump rather
>> than a call is not correct.
> 
> What!

Tail-call elimination turns a call into a jump.

> 
> Andrew's example has the *exact* same issue with RECURSE for which
> you cited me for.  If you use a large factorial value in his example,
> RECURSE will overflow the stack with numbers to be multiplied long
> before the multiplication of the values can occur.
> 

No, I cited you for stack overflow unless it was possible to eliminate
the tail-call. You were offering RECURSE as an alternative to BEGIN ...
AGAIN, which does not have the problem. Andrew was demonstrating that
your implementation of RECURSE was broken.

> 
> Rod Pemberton
>

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BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-21 13:44 -0700
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-21 17:11 -0400
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? mhx@iae.nl - 2014-05-21 14:31 -0700
    Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? mhx@iae.nl - 2014-05-21 15:07 -0700
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-21 14:51 -0700
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-05-21 21:59 +0000
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-22 00:09 +0100
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-21 22:31 -0700
    Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-22 01:58 -0400
      Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-22 08:02 -0700
        Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-22 11:31 -0400
          Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-22 11:03 -0700
            Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? forthisit@gmail.com - 2014-05-22 11:13 -0700
              Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? forthisit@gmail.com - 2014-05-22 11:15 -0700
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  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-05-22 13:47 +0000
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-22 11:27 -0700
    Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-22 11:38 -0700
    Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-22 14:47 -0400
      Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-22 12:22 -0700
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-05-23 02:44 -0500
    Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 02:06 -0700
      Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 05:47 -0400
    Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-24 13:04 -1000
      Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-05-25 15:06 -0500
        Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-25 16:37 -1000
          Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 23:56 -0400
          Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-05-26 04:02 -0500
            Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-26 07:44 -1000
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 12:39 -0700
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 16:49 -0700
    Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-05-24 02:00 +0200
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 17:00 -0700
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 21:29 -0700
    Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 08:10 -0700
      Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 13:55 -0700
        Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 18:41 -0400
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? Bee <forth@calcentral.com> - 2014-05-24 17:09 -0700
    Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 18:05 -0700
      Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 18:09 -0700
        Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? ForthFreak <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 02:03 -0700
          Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 05:18 -0400
            Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? ForthFreak <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 03:01 -0700
              Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 14:10 -0700
                Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 15:19 -0700
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? Bee <forth@calcentral.com> - 2014-05-25 10:13 -0700
    Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 15:22 -0700
      Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-06-12 13:11 -0700
        Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-06-12 19:06 -0700
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-06-12 12:36 -0700
    Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-06-12 19:50 -0700
      Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-06-13 01:02 -0400
        Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-13 04:16 -0400
          Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-06-13 05:22 -0400
            Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-14 00:33 -0400
              Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-06-14 01:15 -0400
              Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-06-13 23:45 -0700
                Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-06-14 00:00 -0700
          Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-06-13 05:26 -0400
            Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-14 00:32 -0400
          Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-06-13 12:27 +0100
            Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-14 00:35 -0400
              Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-06-14 01:22 -0400
                Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-15 08:23 -0400
                Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-06-15 11:57 -0700
                Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-06-15 09:13 -1000
              Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-06-14 04:32 -0500
                Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-15 08:23 -0400
                Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-06-15 19:20 +0100
              Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-06-14 23:19 +0100
                Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-15 08:36 -0400
                Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-06-15 19:18 +0100
                Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-26 18:34 -0400
                Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-06-26 16:04 -0700
                Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-06-15 19:27 +0000
              Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 01:45 -0700
          Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-06-13 09:14 -0700
            Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? november.nihal@gmail.com - 2014-06-13 09:44 -0700
            Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-14 00:32 -0400
              Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-06-13 23:25 -0700
        Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-06-13 03:13 -0500
        Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-06-13 08:38 -0700
          Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-06-13 13:29 -0400
            Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-06-13 11:49 -0700
              Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-14 00:41 -0400
                Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2014-06-13 19:08 -1000
      Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-06-13 21:27 +0100
  Re: BEGIN with multiple AGAINs? BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-06-28 14:00 -0700

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