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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: return -1 using size_t??? |
| Date | 2012-02-13 14:59 -0800 |
| Organization | None to speak of |
| Message-ID | <lnhayuiblo.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> (permalink) |
| References | (8 earlier) <lnipjbkdag.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> <0.fe5ce21679eadd980834.20120212232548GMT.87obt38whv.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <slrnjjhu2f.3i4.angel+news@pearlgates.net> <0.420c3e57efe9dc3d1fc1.20120213125450GMT.87pqdi7v1h.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <m1go09-b8m.ln1@wilbur.25thandClement.com> |
William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> writes:
> Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote:
>> Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> writes:
>> > On 2012-02-12, Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> For those who wonder about all the oddities in the standard, here is a
>> >> system that (a) uses EBCDIC[2]; (b) has unusual sizes and limits; (c) is
>> >> not two's complement; (d) has padding bits in all integer types except
>> >> the char types; (e) has trap representations in these types; and (f) has
>> >> multiple pointer representations (so pointer casts often generate code).
>> >> What's more it's *current*: there was recently an MCP 13.0 release with
>> >> support into 2013.
>> >
>> > Just out of curiosity, is there any change that this system can run
>> > GNU/Linux?
>
>> It would surely be hard and it might be impossible, but why would you?
>> The only reason to use the clunky system is that you have old software
>> that requires this environment.
>
> The OpenBSD team diligently maintains their VAX port just to keep themselves
> honest. One of their rationalizations is that supporting older architectures
> makes it easier to adapt to future architectures by exposing faulty
> assumptions in the code.
Good point -- but the VAX architecture is much closer to most modern
systems than the one Ben describes: 32-bit int with no padding bits, all
pointers are 32 bits with the same representation, ASCII character set.
(VMS differs quite a bit from POSIX systems, but (a) not as much as some
other operating systems, and (b) that's not relevant for OpenBSD).
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Will write code for food.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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return -1 using size_t??? Robert Hayes <rhyes80@gmail.com> - 2012-02-11 11:21 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2012-02-11 15:00 -0500
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-02-11 23:24 +0000
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Jeffrey R <joeff@nospam.com> - 2012-02-11 19:58 +0000
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Re: return -1 using size_t??? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-02-11 15:07 -0500
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Robert Hayes <rhyes80@gmail.com> - 2012-02-11 12:42 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-02-11 13:19 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-11 17:10 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-02-12 03:48 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-12 04:04 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Jeffrey R <joeff@nospam.com> - 2012-02-11 22:25 +0000
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Devil with the China Blue Dress <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-11 14:36 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-02-11 23:17 +0000
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Jeroen Mostert <jmostert@xs4all.nl> - 2012-02-11 23:46 +0100
Re: return -1 using size_t??? pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2012-02-11 19:18 -0500
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-02-12 08:38 -0500
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-02-11 23:32 +0000
Re: return -1 using size_t??? pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2012-02-11 19:15 -0500
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Ralph Spitzner <rasp@spitzner.org> - 2012-02-13 13:51 +0100
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Devil with the China Blue Dress <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-11 12:40 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-02-11 17:02 -0500
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Devil with the China Blue Dress <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-11 14:11 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-02-11 17:21 -0500
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Devil with the China Blue Dress <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-11 14:31 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-02-11 22:52 +0000
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-02-12 00:20 +0100
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Devil with the China Blue Dress <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-12 09:21 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-12 12:27 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Jeroen Mostert <jmostert@xs4all.nl> - 2012-02-12 22:17 +0100
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Devil with the China Blue Dress <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-12 15:10 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2012-02-13 03:11 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-02-12 23:25 +0000
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Jeroen Mostert <jmostert@xs4all.nl> - 2012-02-13 07:46 +0100
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Ike Naar <ike@sverige.freeshell.org> - 2012-02-13 10:27 +0000
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-02-13 12:36 +0000
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2012-02-13 10:26 -0700
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2012-02-14 00:18 +0000
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-02-14 00:29 +0000
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Devil with the China Blue Dress <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-13 16:37 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-02-13 11:47 +0000
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-02-13 12:54 +0000
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-02-13 14:30 +0000
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-22 01:53 +0200
Re: return -1 using size_t??? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-13 12:11 -0500
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-02-13 17:28 +0000
Re: return -1 using size_t??? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-13 13:08 -0500
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-02-13 23:06 +0000
Re: return -1 using size_t??? William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2012-02-13 14:39 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-13 14:59 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@loria.fr> - 2012-02-12 22:17 +0100
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Devil with the China Blue Dress <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-12 15:06 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-02-12 18:12 -0500
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-22 02:15 +0200
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@dqel.com> - 2012-02-11 14:27 -0800
Re: return -1 using size_t??? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-11 17:34 -0800
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