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Re: error in code

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: error in code
Date 2011-05-31 10:49 -0700
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Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> writes:
> On Mon, 30 May 2011 08:46:27 +0200, jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net>
> wrote:
>>Le 30/05/11 03:14, Geoff a écrit :
>>> I think I just spotted someone who doesn't use regression tests and
>>> who doesn't have a standard set of pass/fail tests for his compiler.
>>
>>Sure, YOUR regression tests catch everything, you never make mistakes
>>and when you do, your sophisticated tests catch them all.
>
> I never said my tests were perfect or sophisticated.
>
> Far from it. All programs have bugs. All compilers and regression
> tests are programs. Therefore all compilers and regression tests have
> bugs. 
>
> It is the purpose of regression testing to catch bugs that were
> introduced since the last time the test was run against the
> application under development. No regression is perfect but if it was
> designed to catch an error it ought to catch the same error on a
> subsequent run. Unless the specification changed, in which case you
> would be modifying the application and the test, hopefully
> independently and using different algorithms for calculations where
> needed.

Ok, he had a bug in his regression test suite.  Ideally, he should
have caught the particular error; he didn't.

It's absurd to conclude from that one data point that he "doesn't
use regression tests".

(I'm not sure why I'm defending jacob here; he's certainly not
going to appreciate it, and he'll probably accuse me of leading
the attack.)

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Nokia
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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error in code "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2011-05-28 15:28 -0400
  Re: error in code pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2011-05-28 21:49 +0200
    Re: error in code "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2011-05-28 16:12 -0400
      Re: error in code Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2011-05-28 15:33 -0500
        Re: error in code "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2011-05-28 17:12 -0400
          Re: error in code Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-28 14:26 -0700
          Re: error in code Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2011-05-28 16:29 -0500
          Re: error in code Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2011-05-28 17:26 -0600
      Re: error in code Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-28 14:20 -0700
        Re: error in code "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2011-05-29 02:16 -0400
      Re: error in code Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2011-05-28 16:35 -0400
        Re: error in code "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2011-05-29 15:50 -0400
        Re: error in code Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2011-05-29 20:39 -0600
  Re: error in code Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-28 13:46 -0700
  Re: error in code Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-05-28 23:06 +0100
    Re: error in code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-29 10:10 +1200
  Re: error in code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-29 10:09 +1200
  Re: error in code Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-05-28 22:28 +0000
    Re: error in code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-29 10:37 +1200
      Re: error in code Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-05-28 22:45 +0000
        Re: error in code Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-29 10:48 +1200
          Re: error in code Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-05-28 22:56 +0000
            Re: error in code Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-05-29 00:38 +0000
        Re: error in code "Morris Keesan" <mkeesan@post.harvard.edu> - 2011-05-28 23:11 -0400
  Re: error in code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-05-28 15:54 -0700
  Re: error in code Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2011-05-28 17:23 -0600
  Re: error in code jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-05-29 19:30 +0200
    Re: error in code Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-29 18:14 -0700
      Re: error in code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-05-29 18:50 -0700
        Re: error in code Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-29 19:10 -0700
          Re: error in code Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-05-30 02:54 +0000
            Re: error in code Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-29 20:35 -0700
              Re: error in code Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-05-30 06:15 +0000
      Re: error in code jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-05-30 08:46 +0200
        Re: error in code Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-30 18:50 -0700
          Re: error in code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-05-31 10:49 -0700
    Re: error in code Peter Nilsson <airia@acay.com.au> - 2011-05-29 21:04 -0700
      Re: error in code jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-05-30 08:44 +0200
      Re: error in code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2011-05-31 01:35 -0700
        Re: error in code pacman@kosh.dhis.org (Alan Curry) - 2011-05-31 23:36 +0000
          Re: error in code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2011-06-01 03:01 -0700
            Re: error in code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-01 08:08 -0700
              Re: error in code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2011-06-01 12:50 -0700
                Re: error in code Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-01 13:26 -0700
                Re: error in code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2011-06-02 18:10 -0700
                Re: error in code jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-06-03 11:55 +0200
                Re: error in code Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2011-06-03 19:37 -0700
                Re: error in code jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-06-04 08:13 +0200
      Re: error in code Nisse Engström <news.NOSPAM.idf0Z@luden.se> - 2011-06-01 09:02 +0200

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